being drm shit was enough reason for me to never use steam
it's for children who can't keep their own games library

Except games on disc get ruined then ur fucked.
Then theres offline mode. Lets not forget the fucking sales either.

But i mean w/e, must be a young kid and doesn't know what real men went through.

Something about having to store and retrieve software that i supposedly own from their drives with their permission only doesn't really sit well with me. I should be able to install a game on as many systems as I want wherever I am, even if I've got no external network access to anything.

Maybe if they actually gave an option to download an independent iso that could be used for this purpose when you 'buy' a game I'd consider using it, but no, you're just buying the rights to install it off of their servers. You don't get a copy to call your own, gotta install their crapware client on any computer that you want to play a game you bought on steam. Makes about as much sense as having to calling gamestop for permission to install a game you bought earlier that day, and that the copy you walked out of the store with could be rendered inert if they went out of business or otherwise were unable or unwilling to give that permission. Nah.

The convenience of those libraries is nice, but not worth the compromises. Also hasn't bred a very healthy market, most people i know haven't played half the shit in their steam libraries. That's just crazy to me. Why would you spend money on something you weren't going to use? And they are bombarded with so much shit all the time it's just play one game for a week and on to the next, like disposable cameras. I look at games as an investment not some disposable commodity that you play for a couple days out of a week before the next shiny title with a sale drags away your attention.

This post was edited by DCSS on May 13 2017 08:09pm

generalizations op

If you don't hoard insane amounts of games like some people I know, it makes even less sense to use Steam. Unless you're in it for the community.

Look steams not the best but it sure as shit beats standing out in the fucking cold hoping you get a new title on day 1.
It beats having your disc destroyed by some kid/parent/twat throwing a rage fit or just being dumb as dirt.
I'll take steam sales LONG before I take "resale" value of physical media to places like game stop.
Steam market has allowed me to basically never pay for a game again from my actual cash flow.
The fact that I can share my whole library with anyone I want is pretty fucking nice if you ask me.
The overlay comes in handy instead of alt tabbing to search something or chat with mate or w/e.

I mean only real downside is need an Internet connection initially.
You can pirate steam games and play offline and you can sell steam accounts, albeit not "legally" by their terms.
Now Origin thats a whole other animal that client is just fucking trash and has always been.
But fuck it's EA they were bound to fuck it up soon as they put their name on it.

lol talking about having physical media, must be tin foil hatter

oh what new games are drm free nowdays almost all require origin uplay or steam

oh and you dont have to go searching for the damn patches and installing dlc yourself

almost 1k games here on steam please tell me when I had issues accessing them? plz do

oh wait I can access them from any pc with steam installed, I'd love for you to carry around those games hahahaha

the point is you don't own them, you only bought the right to get permission from an external source to install it. The fuck is that? You're moving the goal posts to make me seem like a tinhatter when my real issue is that you don't own the product you pay for anymore.

And it all goes away if steam goes away. Meanwhile I can install a game i actually own off an ISO even if the world ends and im the only person on the planet still alive.

This post was edited by DCSS on May 13 2017 09:39pm

True if there's a world ending disaster you'll have your games

As a more extreme but ultimately similar example, imagine if you 'bought' a computer, but all it did was let you use the equivalent cpu time of some server somewhere to what you could have had sitting under your desk. You paid the same price as what would have been a box full of number-crunching silicon but all you bought were the rights to use someone else's. You know with how well and quickly Steam has adapted I'm sure this would be an accepted scenario and people would be spouting the same stuff they are now:

"wow 50 tflops anywhere!"
"Costs me like no electricity"
"The convenience!!1"
"WoW no fans? I don't have to worry about cleaning it or my wife's son breaking it"
">Not using the cloud supercomputer in 2057, nice tinfoil hat."
"It's not like you really own yours anyway all those instructions are proprietary GET REKT"

so on and so forth.

And my son will be the old fashioned hipster who still thinks there's some value in having tangible ownership of things you pay for on some level.

Meh.



Several times a week judging by how much my friends cry about steam being down on Dickcord



That's a nice convenience, and like I said I'd definitely make use of it if Steam allowed me to actually OWN the games i BUY on it. No option to make a burnable or virtually mountable method of installing it on other machines is the problem I have with it. I shouldn't lose access to a product I paid for just because a service like Steam goes out of business or otherwise loses the data it has on me as a customer. That's absurd.

It's one thing to have an accessible online library, but another to make it so that people can't even have an alternative way to access the software they bought. Imagine if they added a subscription to use steam, people like you with thousands invested into accessing games they own would be forced to pay up. You're at their mercy if they want to do that, along with many other people, at least if you care about keeping your library. That's just how it is.

This post was edited by DCSS on May 13 2017 10:07pm