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Aug 3 2015 05:27pm
Quote (Owner23 @ Aug 3 2015 05:18pm)
what I heared is that like most of the cpus the chips are all in general all the same but the quality of each chip is different. The company just guarantees you that the chip last at least a minimum time with that multiplier and clock. Everything more than that is actually just factory based

But I may be wrong


Yes all chips [graphics and cpu] suffer from what is called the Silicon lottery.
This is why overclocking is not an exact science and why overclocking exists. [otherwise manufacturers would just overclock everything to the max and sell it that way]

Basically, due to the way in which chips are made, each chip requires a different amount of Voltage to run at a specific frequency [GHz/MHz]. So in general if you can overclock very high at reasonable voltages or otherwise and get stable performance, you've "won" the silicon lottery.
Alternatively, if you lack proper cooling it's also considered winning the lottery if you can undervolt a chip by a certain amount and have it be stable, though this is not as sought after, so there won't necessarily be as much information on that side :lol:


This post was edited by Rapture on Aug 3 2015 05:37pm
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Yes all chips [graphics and cpu] suffer from what is called the Silicon lottery.
This is why overclocking is not an exact science and why overclocking exists. [otherwise manufacturers would just overclock everything to the max and sell it that way]

Basically, due to the way in which chips are made, each chip requires a different amount of Voltage to run at a specific frequency [GHz/MHz]. So in general if you can overclock very high at reasonable voltages or otherwise and get stable performance, you've "won" the silicon lottery.
Alternatively, if you lack proper cooling it's also considered winning the lottery if you can undervolt a chip by a certain amount and have it be stable, though this is not as sought after, so there won't necessarily be as much information on that side :lol:


This.

But it's also worth noting 2 factors:
1. Chip quality on average is increasing due to production technology increasing. This means there will be more consistency between two of the same processors.
2. Processor binning is commonplace. This means that buying a high end version of a GPU will guarantee a certain level of stability, while low/mid level versions will often be untested or failed to meet stability levels.

To a degree, these things help to cancel each other out.

This post was edited by SanityWasHacked on Aug 3 2015 06:12pm
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Aug 3 2015 06:18pm
yea...so thats kinda interessting, lottery is fun :D
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Quote (Owner23 @ Aug 3 2015 08:18pm)
yea...so thats kinda interessting, lottery is fun :D


Certainly is, but it may be a lot more disappointing if your lottery ticket is 220 dollars [i5 4690k] and not a winner :lol:
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