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May 25 2015 01:12am
Quote (Rapture @ May 25 2015 01:37am)
I really hope your wrong because that all sounds really depressing. the 970 was 35-50% faster than the 770.
Dx12 has shown insanely dramatic differences, ranging from 100-400%
Ram speed is useless on games now, unless dx12 changes that, moot point.
Pcie lanes are nice but I don't see an additional 4 being a serious game changer for most people. - besides this is actually a worse argument because currently AMD's fx supports a 2x16 or 4x8 config, so if dx12 actually lets you use all 8 [or unlimited as they have posited] cores without any fuss, you'll need an i7, minimum, to really compete with an 8320 to out perform in terms of graphics.

Again, for all practical purposes, it does not make sense to wait for skylake. Might as well wait for the new zen processors while youre at it.


Why buy when new shit is around the corner

Gone this long without it what's 3 more months

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May 25 2015 02:07am
Quote (Rapture @ May 24 2015 11:37pm)
I really hope your wrong because that all sounds really depressing. the 970 was 35-50% faster than the 770.
Dx12 has shown insanely dramatic differences, ranging from 100-400%
Ram speed is useless on games now, unless dx12 changes that, moot point.
Pcie lanes are nice but I don't see an additional 4 being a serious game changer for most people. - besides this is actually a worse argument because currently AMD's fx supports a 2x16 or 4x8 config, so if dx12 actually lets you use all 8 [or unlimited as they have posited] cores without any fuss, you'll need an i7, minimum, to really compete with an 8320 to out perform in terms of graphics.

Again, for all practical purposes, it does not make sense to wait for skylake. Might as well wait for the new zen processors while youre at it.


my face when ppl take those
bs pipeline benchmarks n think its real world
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May 25 2015 03:22pm
I'm not expecting to see those truly correlate to such gains, but I'm definitely expecting a hell of a lot more than 20%, especially as you have more cores or threads.

Sorry to blow your thread up op, but we have covered a good amount of info for to. Whether you want to wait is up to your friend, but you should have a good idea as to why you might wait. :)
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May 25 2015 03:38pm
your face when yur drunk
20% is 980 to a titan x for free
and u expect more just from a api change
oh man
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May 26 2015 02:14pm
Thanks friends, if it was me, I'd wait. He does want his computer now though and I understand cause he has just graduated and has wanted to build one for a long time.

This is the most updated:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KmK7FT / http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KmK7FT/by_merchant/

CPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k ($199.99)
CPU Cooler: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2 ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97pro4 ($49.99)
Memory: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbxl ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex ($51.67 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp41970kr ($325.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-thorv2 ($129.95 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-photon650 ($82.88 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umfb6aa001 (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-mouse-910004074 (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1014.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-26 16:13 EDT-0400


What do you think about going the GTX 970 rather than the 290x?
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Quote (lo0lo0lo0l @ May 26 2015 04:14pm)
Thanks friends, if it was me, I'd wait. He does want his computer now though and I understand cause he has just graduated and has wanted to build one for a long time.

This is the most updated:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KmK7FT / http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KmK7FT/by_merchant/

CPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k ($199.99)
CPU Cooler: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2 ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97pro4 ($49.99)
Memory: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbxl ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex ($51.67 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp41970kr ($325.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-thorv2 ($129.95 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-photon650 ($82.88 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umfb6aa001 (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-mouse-910004074 (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1014.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-26 16:13 EDT-0400


What do you think about going the GTX 970 rather than the 290x?


Well performance wise they are very similar
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1056?vs=1355
Sometimes 970 is better, sometimes 290x is better. Would get a 970 between those 2 personally, since it is new tech and has newer technologies in it that older cards dont.
The 290 is most cost effective, since you can get it for 240-250 after rebate, and overclock it to be the same performance as a 290x.
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May 26 2015 05:06pm
tell him buy now
or wait a few months and get 30% gains
no reason to even buy a pc now
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