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Feb 22 2017 05:29pm
Here we are again, a little over a year ago i came here looking for a gaming pc build, ended up with a gtx 970 and a i5 4690k(haswell) and 16gb of ddr3 ram and was happy with the result, i still use it to this day as my main pc(i also got a laptop)

today i'm looking for a cpu/mobo combination that would suit my need because ive started to use virtual machines lately and i need a pc dedicated to it (to have like 6-12VM on it running a game all at once with stable performances)

my current build that i described up here can barely run 2 or 3 VMs with the config i need to give you an idea ^^

right now im hesitating between a regular i7 4core 8thread (prolly the 4ghz skylake i think its 6700k??)

or a 6-8core broadwell-e i7, even tho idk if broadwell-e architecture offer performance as good as skylake per core??


OR i can go balls to the wall and get a 8core xeon or even a 2pin xeon with 10+cores... but then again i got the same question , are xeons performances per core nearly as good as a i7 skylake?

if anyone got good experience with using VMs to 'play' demanding games or know alot about specifically CPU lmk, i think i got the whole ram/psu/gpu etc issue solved, im really just looking for cpu/mobo experienced advices :)
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Feb 22 2017 05:34pm
Have a look at it before you decide going intel for now.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76004306&f=188
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Feb 22 2017 05:47pm
Quote (ZwiX @ Feb 22 2017 06:34pm)
Have a look at it before you decide going intel for now.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76004306&f=188


will do.. ive seen a video from linus a few weeks ago talking about ryzen cpus coming soon, didnt see this one tho ^^

the problem here isnt really the price, i mean ofcourse id rather pay less if its as good but i cant compromise quality ... i'm going to use this dedicated PC for my job... the better it works the more money i can make with less headaches
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Quote (NumbSouls @ 23 Feb 2017 00:47)
will do.. ive seen a video from linus a few weeks ago talking about ryzen cpus coming soon, didnt see this one tho ^^

the problem here isnt really the price, i mean ofcourse id rather pay less if its as good but i cant compromise quality ... i'm going to use this dedicated PC for my job... the better it works the more money i can make with less headaches


Quality wise both brands deliver. AMD been behind in performance for years now, but seems to be changing with this generation.
What would your budget be for the project?

Xeon would be very suitable for VM machines because they don't really rely on single core performance. But if you are going to play games on it you will see a huge performance lose compared to an i5.
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Feb 22 2017 06:02pm
Quote (ZwiX @ Feb 22 2017 06:55pm)
Quality wise both brands deliver. AMD been behind in performance for years now, but seems to be changing with this generation.
What would your budget be for the project?

Xeon would be very suitable for VM machines because they don't really rely on single core performance. But if you are going to play games on it you will see a huge performance lose compared to an i5.


yeh, well idk if im even allowed to discuss this on d2jsp because of their no bot discussion policies or idk but its for botting on VMs (that is the only bot related thing ill say)

i need to be able to get a steady 20-30fps on each VM's game client and the game is sort of CPU intensive (we're not talking about runescape or diablo 2 here)

if you tell me that xeon will give me worst performance per VM than even an i5 (like it will let me run more but less powerfull vms) then i guess that rule xeon line out of my possibilities.

now i guess the question is, i7 skylake 4core 8thread or
i7 6-8core (i think those are all on broadwell-e? and i got no clue if that give similar performance to skylake) or
that new ryzen thing, id prolly get the best one of that line 1800x or whatever it is if i go that route

i can already say that the i5 haswell give me barely what i need in term of performance fps/etc wise, thats why im really considering skylake...
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Quote (NumbSouls @ 23 Feb 2017 01:02)
yeh, well idk if im even allowed to discuss this on d2jsp because of their no bot discussion policies or idk but its for botting on VMs (that is the only bot related thing ill say)

i need to be able to get a steady 20-30fps on each VM's game client and the game is sort of CPU intensive (we're not talking about runescape or diablo 2 here)

if you tell me that xeon will give me worst performance per VM than even an i5 (like it will let me run more but less powerfull vms) then i guess that rule xeon line out of my possibilities.

now i guess the question is, i7 skylake 4core 8thread or
i7 6-8core (i think those are all on broadwell-e? and i got no clue if that give similar performance to skylake) or
that new ryzen thing, id prolly get the best one of that line 1800x or whatever it is if i go that route

i can already say that the i5 haswell give me barely what i need in term of performance fps/etc wise, thats why im really considering skylake...


Kinda sad you dedicate a PC build to ruin economy in a game that many people enjoy.
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Feb 24 2017 06:17am
Quote (ZwiX @ Feb 24 2017 04:49am)
Kinda sad you dedicate a PC build to ruin economy in a game that many people enjoy.


Meh, ruin is a strong word

Wait for ryzen
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Meh, ruin is a strong word

Wait for ryzen


Nah it is true. Diablo 2 got absolutely destroyed for legit players.
So will ever other Rpg/mmo based games with a proper anti cheat.
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Feb 24 2017 06:50am
3930k
32gb ram
Is what I'm running
For lots of VMs
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Feb 24 2017 01:01pm
Quote (ZwiX @ Feb 24 2017 07:34am)
Nah it is true. Diablo 2 got absolutely destroyed for legit players.
So will ever other Rpg/mmo based games with a proper anti cheat.


lol d2 didnt get ruined by the bots, it does 'seem' like it but it didn't. If blizzard gave a fuck about d2 like they did at the begining it wouldnt have gotten ruined. bots are present in every single games and some games devs fight them better than other... in the case of d2 its not a war anymore blizzard just gave up because they dont make cash from d2 anymore so they actually WANT d2 to die so they dont need to maintain as much servers for it lol, d2 is litterally a waste of money for em

and in the game i play im 100% sure that bots actually BRING money to the developers because alot of casual players that are busy irl and dont have time to farm items/gold etc ingame wouldnt even play the game if they couldnt buy gear from botters and play with their friends... (you cant play with your friends if they are super geared cause they're nolife and you got no gear... so they buy gear from me/other botters/RMTer and enjoy the game)

I'm completely fine with the fact that you do not want to answer my cpu question and all because of the use i will make of it, but don't start saying im ruining a game when im clearly not

Quote (ssdrmstre @ Feb 24 2017 07:17am)
Meh, ruin is a strong word

Wait for ryzen


i am NOT waiting for ryzen, as they will NOT perform better than a good i7 cpu and the price isnt the issue here, id MUCH RATHER have the cpu today and pay more than wait and pay less. everyday that go by with me not having that rig built is wasted $ this isnt a gaming rig, its a business rig

This post was edited by NumbSouls on Feb 24 2017 01:03pm
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