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Feb 6 2016 11:45am
So I bought my PC from http://www.sgxtech.com/gaming-pc-gamer.html because they were like 30 minute drive from my home it was way better and I thought that what I got was fucking great for 900$ but then I was told that it was actually pure garb and could have had better for 900$ but I was too scared to build it myself. My friend wants to buy a PC just to play like LoL and CSGO and doesn't want to spend much and he wants to buy it from them but I want to save him. So how good is this build? http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/GJPZt6 And can it be cheaper and better?
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Feb 6 2016 12:53pm
First of all:
Your CPU does not need 2 cooler. The CPU comes already with a cooler.
also your Main board seems not avalible in Canada.
But otherwise your build should run both games without problems.
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Feb 6 2016 06:51pm
Quote (maulepan @ Feb 6 2016 02:53pm)
First of all:
Your CPU does not need 2 cooler. The CPU comes already with a cooler.
also your Main board seems not avalible in Canada.
But otherwise your build should run both games without problems.



he may want one, that processor is almost always used for overclocking.


btw, this is what i came up with in that same budget, for those same games:


keep in mind, this includes the monitor/mouse/keyboard

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/blunderwonder2/saved/#view=29PZxr


the reasoning for it is, no reason to buy the g3258+cooler, its the same price as using a stock i3-4170, and less trouble for the same speed, also i suspect the i3 is going to alst a bit longer, ppl willl suggest quad core but i feel like the hyperthreading will be utilized by many games that require the quad core so it shud be fine, it also has a faster clock speed than most i5's so it some things it will even do better than a more expensive processor. For gaming, especially those games, theyre gpu intensive, which is why you get a nice gfx card, but not one so nice that ur cpu will bottleneck it, for me it seems like the i3-4170/gtx950 was a solid match, any game the i3 cant run well, the 950 wudnt either, and vice versa - so for the price u cant do much better. You can chop a bit off the hdd, thers no gaming performance difference for ssd vs hdd, and who really uses more than 100 gigs on a gaming pc anyway, your going to want things running quick so your not likely to have tons of crap on there anyway. From what ive read, 8 gigs of ram is plenty for windows 7 and probably for the newer versions as well. I did ALOT of reading about all this crap, and while im not generally as knowledgable as most of these people i can tell you my build is about as even-keeled as you can get.

Everything basically maxes out at the same time, your going to get the best performance out of it(WITHOUT upgrading), nothing is bottlenecking anything else. If you plan upgrades in the future, its better to throw a little extra cash at the processor, so that it can last a few graphics card cycles. For me i dont plan on changing anything unless something fails, so this combination was perfect because they get very good performance when not under tons of pressure, and they all sort of collapse under the same amounts of pressure. For the money you cant do much better i guarantee it. The g3258 is an intersting idea, but unless you're very familiar with OC'ing i wouldnt do it, cause you may not get as good an OC as youd want, and if you get a really good OC, youll need a cooler anyway.

check out some youtube videos of the i3-4160/gtx950, and youll see when they run msi afterburner, they both hit 100% load in about the same situations, so there pretty well matched if you dont think youll ever upgrade.

/e btw, if you dont need a 1080p monitor or mouse/keyboard/optical drive, you can probably go a bit bigger on the processor, or for those games, mayb eeven get a nice i5(i didnt do alot of research on them), a 750ti, and then upgrade your gfx card in the future when you want to play more demanding games. It will total about the same now but you'll have a much longer upgrade path for the gfx card whiel ur processor is still ok. I was goign to do that but im fine with just turning the gfx down every few years, and i feel like the i3 is plenty for what i do. Games dont really need the quad core, theyre just ported over here that way because thats how ps4 works or w/e, its just as likely all those ppl will turn out to be wrong.

This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Feb 6 2016 06:58pm
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Feb 6 2016 08:24pm
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/hYMz23

shaved off $90
post above applies to US
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Feb 7 2016 01:41am
if you get the 3258 you need an overclocking board as far as I know and you will also need an aftermarket cpu cooler. hyper 212 seems to be the best price/performance
don't get the i3.
also depending on canada prices if the 750ti is a lot cheaper just go with that. performance isn't that much different to justify $100 more
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Feb 7 2016 02:19pm
Alright so I haven't specified that this is for Canada and without any OS, Monitor, mouse keyboard. Just the PC itself.
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Feb 7 2016 08:20pm
Quote (ghc @ Feb 7 2016 01:41am)
if you get the 3258 you need an overclocking board as far as I know and you will also need an aftermarket cpu cooler. hyper 212 seems to be the best price/performance
don't get the i3.
also depending on canada prices if the 750ti is a lot cheaper just go with that. performance isn't that much different to justify $100 more


http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948

you can o/c the g3258 on these boards :)
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Feb 7 2016 08:46pm
Quote (Penguins0690 @ Feb 7 2016 10:20pm)
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948

you can o/c the g3258 on these boards :)


Well he won't be o/c he isn't deep into these kind of things, he will just browse the internet, play LoL & CSGO
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Feb 7 2016 08:53pm
Quote (UkrainianProtein @ Feb 7 2016 08:46pm)
Well he won't be o/c he isn't deep into these kind of things, he will just browse the internet, play LoL & CSGO


best bang for your buck would be to o/c the g3258 with the stock cooler

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/JkTsqs

made it sub $600

if you have a spare hard drive laying around for him, you can use that and save $70, bringing him closer to the $530 mark

alternatively, you could try playing without a discreet card
i'm not sure how intel hd 530 pairs up, but it might be valid given the budget constraints
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/CYTsqs
seems like it can be run on low with 60 fps, this could be an option until your friend decides he wants to drop a video card in there i suppose

This post was edited by Penguins0690 on Feb 7 2016 09:07pm
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Feb 8 2016 07:57am
Quote (blunderwonder2 @ Feb 6 2016 07:51pm)


the reasoning for it is, no reason to buy the g3258+cooler, its the same price as using a stock i3-4170, and less trouble for the same speed, also i suspect the i3 is going to alst a bit longer, ppl willl suggest quad core but i feel like the hyperthreading will be utilized by many games that require the quad core so it shud be fine,


how many games actually support ht?
how long has ht been around?

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Feb 8 2016 07:58am
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