https://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1269796807980310534

https://i.imgur.com/rDORz2H.png

^look at the cpu scores... that's a 4 core Tiger Lake cpu vs EIGHT core Zen 2 cpu. Ridiculous. LPDDR5 at 4700mhz should be roughly the same in bandwidth as the most heavily tweaked ddr4. 25% cited ipc over ix-10xxx skylake seems inevitable, same arch from these tests coming to 14nm... supposed to have the same upgraded cache subsystem of the 10nm Tiger Lake and that's makes willow cove so appealing. 3mb l3 per core instead of 2mb on skylake, and way more l2... Big dick shit incomng.

Just gotta see what the clock speeds will be on desktop. The early rocket lake ES time spy/fs scores were fucked up but it's a very very early ES since rocket lake isn't even releasing this year... I personally think the tiger lake numbers are more indicative of what we will see, expect desktop to just be more power hungry in achieving it on account of the node backport.

What do you guys think? Rocket Lake gonna be great or will it be a lemon? Will it beat Zen 3 or just be another stopgap of Intel barely holding on while they focus on 10nm++/7nm and Gracemont/Golden Cove that should be skipped by anyone not on something ancient/dying.

I'm thinking Rocket Lake is going to be a bigger pog than people are expecting. If they can get clock speeds up and it really is a solid 25% ipc over Skylake and has the Tiger Lake cache subsystem, it's going to be super worth it for me as a Haswell owner.

10nm++/10

comet lake/10th gen:

pros:

-high 14nm++++++++ clock speeds
-10 core i9
-strong imc
-ring bus
-sanded down die for better thermals over 6th/7th/8th/9th gen

cons:

-unnecessary core-to-core latency issues on 10700k/10600k due to Intel trying to maximize 10900k yields and using 10 core silicon for all of it
-5 year old aging architecture lower ipc than Zen 2 even, only compensates by clocks
-seriously the architecture is 5 fucking years old
-amd price equivalent chips blow it away in value and in multitasking
-probably no general availability for another month or 2
-pcie3.0

rocket lake/11th gen

pros:

-25% ipc over skylake (!)
-Cache improvements and huge instruction window
-Avx512
-clock speeds will likely be a smidge higher than 10nm++ golden cove/gracemont
-well matured ddr4 imc (have you seen how awesome comet lake's IMC is? it's amazing)
-socket compatible with all coolers made since lga 1155 (sandy bridge)
-finally igpu improved over uhd 630 (irrelevant but neat)
-pcie4.0
-Final generation of ddr4 cpu out of Intel and the i7-11700k will most likely be the most powerful Intel ddr4 gaming cpu forever, meaning this chip will hold value very well even half a decade or longer from now for the large market of ppl still on ddr4 just wanting the best upgrade for their lga 1200 board, not replace motherboard and ram etc. Just look at the 4790k today, still sells used for over $200 for same reason.

cons:

-not releasing until 2021...
-14nm
-willow cove probably won't clock as high as 10th gen on 14nm+++++++++
-No i9, will cap out at i7 (i7-11700k) and 8 cores
-socket lga 1200 will be dead after it, 10nm++ will be on LGA 1700
-no idea how willow cove will perform on 14nm just yet, no guarantee it's actually 25% or that the tiger lake cache changes have been implemented

reasons to go alder lake/12th gen

pros:

-50% ipc over skylake (!!)
-10nm++ will be more refined than a fresh process would be, high efficiency and decent clock speeds
-more multicore performance due to golden cove/gracemont design, probably still less cost effective than amd but it's a good start in competing again
-8 big cores + 8 atom cores, i predict i9 stays out of mainstream desktop now, i see an i7 with 16 cores/24 threads with atom cores, 8 core/16t i5, and 6c/12t i3 (no atom cores on i3/i5), the i3/i5 will be very cost effective gaming cpus vs Zen 4.
-lga 1700 socket will last for 3 generations, an unprecedented long upgrade path for an Intel socket, and will probably be worth upgrading from 12th gen to 15th gen with a promised return to incremental improvements from Intel

cons:

-must buy new DDR5 RAM
-new socket will be physically larger, all old coolers are useless, bye bye 212 evo, bye bye h110i, bye bye h7 cryorig, bye bye arctic freezer II, etc.
-longer waiting for release than RKL
-actual benefits of hybrid core design on the desktop are still an unknown
-ddr5 IMC will be inefficient and messy early on... lots of room for improvement

I am leaning towards rocket lake currently.

whoops, 12th gen to 15th would actually be 4 gens, mistake on my part. Can't edit my posts tho. it's gonna be 12th, 13th, and 14th gen on lga 1700

So they posted a bunch of graphics results with INTEGRATED graphics?
Intel reaching.

The physics score of the Intel part is the really shocking thing here, and what makes rocket lake exciting.

I want that 7nm

wait for ocean cove

ye

In 5 years