need the best quality-to-price ratio

i heard macbook pro and microsoft surface was good for these

any others?

for programming you need screen height

microsoft surface 3:2 aspect ratio is awesome for programming
macbook 16:10 aspect ratio is very good as well
huawei matebook x pro is also a good alternative if you don't want a surface or macbook

16:9 is good for consumer laptops to watch movies/videos on youtube but literal cancer for doing work since you have to scroll so much when working with code
stay away from gaming laptops which all have 16:9 aspect ratios and gaudy colors that look like something a 12 year old would be using

For programming and work:
3:2 (surface) > 16:10 (macbooks) > 16:9 (almost all current consumer and gaming laptops) > 4:3 (old monitors 20 years ago)


Per the chart below, if you're coding you don't need the extra width of 16:9... you need the extra height of 16:10 and 3:2 otherwise you have to scroll more and lose productivity



16:9 is good for media consumption, photo/video editing, etc since you can have your menu bars on the side
For regular monitors 16:9 is fine since you have a large screen (27"+) but on laptops it's literal cancer

gg ur steve jobs

gg ur bill gates

There are a few other questions that need to be answered here.

1) What level are you / do you expect to get to when using python or programming in general? Is this a hobby, for school, or for your professional job?
2) Is there a budget in which you want to stay within? I'm assuming not really since you're naming off a few expensive laptops.
3) What environment are you going to be mainly in? Is this a work environment, home, or school? Also, are you going to be using an external monitor?

If you are going to be doing this purely as a hobby / learning python or coding in general, I wouldn't go out and buy the most expensive laptop. That is, of course, unless you have the budget to do so. It's your money, so spend it however you'd like.
If you are going to be mainly working on the go, you need to take into consideration other factors like battery life, etc.
If you are mainly using an external monitor, aspect ratio isn't that big of a deal; however, it is extremely nice to have a 4:3 / 16:10 when working with code.

I personally use a Dell XPS 13. It has a 16:9, but I use two external monitors at work so I don't spend much time working on the go. It has great battery life, and the necessary ports.

this is for work.

looking for best quality/price ratio

but realistically 2k or under, i can push it to 2.5k

This post was edited by Firaga on Jun 3 2018 08:55am

Okay, so from experience, I would recommend a MacBook Pro if you're an Apple OSX fan or a Dell XPS (13 or 15, depending on what you want. I have the 13, and I love it.) if you're a Windows fan.

The reason I would not recommend a Microsoft Surface / Surface Book is because I have had two of them. I had two Surface Books (one after the other had hardware / software incompatibility issues)
The issues remained on both machines. I worked at Best Buy for two years as a store manager, and these laptops had almost as many issues as Lenovo computers.

I would recommend going and typing on both. If you can find a nice Lenovo Thinkpad, these are great laptops as well. Their keyboards are light years better than the others.

I forgot about this one but Lenovo has a 3rd generation X1 tablet that has an awesome keyboard and a 3:2 aspect ratio
https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/windows-tablets/thinkpad-tablet-series/ThinkPad-X1-Tablet-3rd-Gen/p/22TP2CP0113

If you wan't a high quality built laptop take a look at Huawei Matebook X Pro:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/huawei-matebook-x-pro-laptop/8n4k86d4j006/4X0P?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
Loving the 3:2 aspect ratio on it as well.

I'm going to get one the minute it gets released in Europe. (Even have a Dell XPS 15 9560 now)
I've considered buying one from the US. But the physical US keyboard layout would most likely annoy me to much.

This post was edited by ZwiX on Jun 3 2018 12:59pm

Do you know if this laptop runs into overheating issues at all?