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Nov 26 2017 05:33am
Okay so I pretty much just want to edit videos, make compilations, photoshop etcetc most likely using adobe premier

Is this PC good enough? It needs to be able to do 4k resolution

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-128gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-hp-finish-in-natural-silver/5759909.p?skuId=5759909&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=ba59a406-8bbb-4aea-b59b-dcc4b7f57a74&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=pg199037&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

If not, what is it missing and what would you suggest?

My budget is around $1,000

I just mostly want an i7-7700k, 16 gb ram 1 tb hdd, does the rest of the hardware matter? How would one go about picking out the other hardware like the motherboard etcetc.

thanks!
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Nov 26 2017 06:02am
> Intel HD Graphics 630

My lord, no

don't buy any PC with a budget of 1k with that kind of graphics processor

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Nov 26 2017 06:02am
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Nov 26 2017 06:22am
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> Intel HD Graphics 630

My lord, no

don't buy any PC with a budget of 1k with that kind of graphics processor


Thanks for the reply, can you link me to any better suggestions?
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Nov 26 2017 06:23am
There's no way that's enough money for a decent 4k editing rig.

Also a Ryzen 7 would be much better than the 7700k for this

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There's no way that's enough money for a decent 4k editing rig.

Also a Ryzen 7 would be much better than the 7700k for this


How much money would have to get thrown down? And would this be for prebuilt or pcpartpicker?

Link me the bare minimum via a prebuilt pc that would work well for what I want to do if you can, thanks.
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Quote (RODALE @ Nov 26 2017 09:05am)
How much money would have to get thrown down? And would this be for prebuilt or pcpartpicker?

Link me the bare minimum via a prebuilt pc that would work well for what I want to do if you can, thanks.


Something like this I guess would be as good as you can get within budget:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-black/6092500.p?skuId=6092500&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=5c7d570d-c38d-4c95-9549-3e329100c6b9&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=pg199037&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

It's actually not far from what I would suggest as a minimum but I would prefer more RAM for 4k editing in premiere; i also don't know the speed of the RAM or the motherboard model, and less importantly the 1070 model. Typical pre-built problems tho, in any case it's way better than the one you linked.

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Quote (DCSS @ Nov 26 2017 05:21am)
Something like this I guess would be as good as you can get within budget:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-black/6092500.p?skuId=6092500&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=5c7d570d-c38d-4c95-9549-3e329100c6b9&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=pg199037&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

It's actually not far from what I would suggest as a minimum but I would prefer more RAM for 4k editing in premiere; i also don't know the speed of the RAM or the motherboard model, and less importantly the 1070 model. Typical pre-built problems tho, in any case it's way better than the one you linked.


Thanks for the insight
ooo nice yeah thats within budget still.

If I were to build my own pc on pcpartspicker, would I still be able to get a PC better than this one that's still around the same price?
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Nov 26 2017 07:59am


We KNOW that pre-built PCs contain substandard parts.

Things like the power supply, and maybe who made the RAM or the SSD etc., are how these pre-built companies, manage to bring PCs to the market with compelling prices.
Pre-builts will include less than desirable components, just to keep the price down.
It's getting harder and harder to custom build a PC for a similar price without ALSO including substandard parts.

I think you just have to decide whether you want a solidly built computer or a less solid, pre-built computer at a better price.
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We KNOW that pre-built PCs contain substandard parts.

Things like the power supply, and maybe who made the RAM or the SSD etc., are how these pre-built companies, manage to bring PCs to the market with compelling prices.
Pre-builts will include less than desirable components, just to keep the price down.
It's getting harder and harder to custom build a PC for a similar price without ALSO including substandard parts.

I think you just have to decide whether you want a solidly built computer or a less solid, pre-built computer at a better price.


It's also because the crypto currency apocalypse isn't touching gpu's already tucked safely away into a pre-built. No one who is mining is buying these so there's no huge shortage = no huge price hikes. And since ddr4 prices are exploding by the month, depending on when the pre-built was assembled, that's also going to have a limited effect.

In the end though, without knowing the specifics of the components it's a gamble, like you said could be some serious garbage in there like single-channel RAM and a dog motherboard with 2-phase vrm's and bargain bin SSD's from 5 years ago with a seagate hdd. Could try looking up the model to see what others got inside, IDK. I don't think this build is particularly well optimized for editing, anyway. It's a gaming pc at the end of the day. I think a bigger SSD is required for use as a cache/scratchdisk for adobe premiere, at least 250gb ideally 500mb, and you'll probably want more spinning rust storage than 1tb as well for projects, but don't know what you're doing with it.

As for the RAM, depending on your usage, 16gb might be enough but 32gb is just better, shoot for at least 3000mhz or a bit lower if it's a solid overclocking brand like g.skill that can probably do it anyway with some tweaking. 3200mhz if you want to be totally sure you're getting the most out of your Ryzen. Premiere is one of those programs where RAM usage is really inconsistent and user-dependent, some people say 16gb isn't a problem and others need 64+

for the GPU, I suppose you could get away with a 1060 6gb, even for 4k editing, to bring the costs down. Personally, I'd rather do that than settle for less scratchdisk space or RAM.

Ryzen 7 is the only choice for cpu, don't go near an Intel quad core. I also recommend something like a hyper 212 LED because it's cheap, better than stock and compatible with AM4 out of the box, you'll be overclocking anyway, especially if you go for the 1700 which is the highest value and the one I'd recommend overall or the 1700x which costs slightly more but gives you a slightly higher chance of achieving a slightly higher OC. The 1800x is a joke, don't even consider it.

This post was edited by DCSS on Nov 26 2017 08:27am
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Nov 26 2017 08:40am
disclaimer:im no expert on editing pc's and i have no idea how you would balance one just right for your use cases, im sure someone who actually knows shit like king atrhur will be here soon

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