i think this is probably the end of non-smt cpu's across the board, i5's are completely outdated now no sense in paying same amount for 1/3rd the threads 5-10% more fps if you overclock but always 90-100% usage aka no headroom for the future or any other processes so it's only going to get worse going forward since the 1600 sits at only around 30% usage in the same scenarios.
Intel did a good job jewing people out of an ancient 15 year old feature for so long though.
I think Intel's obviously going to be on top again in the end but Ryzen will still be the comparable alternative, It'll be like the i7-920 vs phenom II days except if the Phenom II's had same # of threads and better smt. Intel will be winning most benchmarks but AMD will still win some (vs none in the faildozer days) and be the better perf/$ choice with still respectable performance.
As for the server market, I'm not so sure. I think they should do to the same thing to the Opteron product lineup as Intel did to Pentium after the failure that was the Pentium 4, since its name has been basically dragged through the mud by these extremely slow chips that are only used for very low-end systems. Naples seems like it's going to be really scary but at least they have been given time to come up with a response unlike in the desktop market where Ryzen just crashed into the scene offering objectively better value and performance across the board.
Though to be honest I think Intel is more worried about competition from RISC's than from Naples in that market anyway. x86 in general seems like it's on the way out, it's already getting dominated in the embedded/mobile market, next will be servers, and desktops last if the overall transition to efficiency that's inevitably going to leave desktops as we know them in the dust as an oddity doesn't happen first, as a reminder of when we used to have big ass cases and slap big heat sinks fans or radiators to pieces of silicon to squeeze out 20% more performance for sometimes over twice the power draw. At that point they'll just be a hobbyist thing like muscle cars rather than a practical or useful thing to own.
This post was edited by DCSS on May 11 2017 06:26pm