Looking on prices oppo 103 costs 300€ more than what I got UD5007 for on discount. And what I have read UD5007 have got good reviews as well and looks good.

This post was edited by vittujenkevat on Oct 4 2014 12:53pm

Oh I see, you live in Europe (so do I)

Well for us in Norway the best value comes from Cambridge, namely the Cambridge 651-BD which has the same DAC/chipset/internal hardware as the Oppo so its pretty much 99% of the same performance (Cambridge has a slightly different sound signature some say, not that I can differentiate that...)

the Cambridge 651-BD is roughly 25-30% cheaper than the Oppo 103 here which is why most people prefer the Cambridge here but some still pay extra for the Oppo.


I don't know why but for some reason: Cambridge is overpriced in US, correctly priced in EU

Oppo is overpriced in EU, correctly priced in US



Since I'm from Norway I went with the Cambridge 651-BD

Got mine for $500 (and Norway's usually way more expensive than the US) and still it costs $800 on Amazon.com


Here's the bench test for the 751-BD from Cambridge, which performs EXACTLY like the last generation Oppo-95 :



96%


Basically:

Oppo 105 = Cambridge 752
Oppo 103 = Cambridge 652
Oppo 95 = Cambridge 751
Oppo 93 = Cambridge 651

I have the 651 which is a re-skinned Oppo 93.

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Oct 4 2014 12:59pm

But it doesn't seem like they've put that player on the test bench ( http://hometheaterhifi.com/content/blu-ray-players-reviews/page-2.html ) and I've never used it personally so I can't judge. If you like it that's perfectly cool, but Cambridge and Oppo should always be checked first before anything else when it comes to players (imo)

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Oct 4 2014 01:01pm

Looked up the cambridge prices and they are pretty much the same as oppo. For some reason I have never really liked cambridge..

lol, I'm with halfbaked overpriced

would you notice the difference

no

would you notice difference side by side,

no

would you notice the differences once pointed out

yes

waste

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Oct 4 2014 01:18pm

You are wellcome to link me cheaper player in EU that performs atleast as good or better.

you don't appreciate the nuances of being an audiophile...

In terms of colour performance you are correct. You'd have to be a professional or a very concerned videophile to *clearly* spot the differences in colour errors. Same applies to the sound signature/ difference in quality of the DAC chips sets (well trained ears or concerned audiophile)

but its both of those factors combined with:

* support of all physical formats (SACDs, HD-CDs, AVCHDs, DVD-A, Blu-ray Audio, V-CDs, etc)
* Support of all media files (Mp4, Mp3, FLAC, ALAC, WAV, WMA etc)
* support of all apps/content like Netflix, hulu etc
* quality of up scaling SD content like DVDs to 1080p, cheap players do a HORRIBLE job, Oppos (and all the re-skins like Cambridge, Theta Digital, Goldmund etc) do a fantastic job of making DVDs as close to BD quality as possible
* Loading times, faster processor/loading mechanisms mean that some blu-ray players might load a film in 45 seconds while other cheaper ones might take 1 minute and 40 seconds
* Fan noise, disk-rotating noise and so on varies


^ It only takes 500 dollars to get all of those perfected. Everything above $499 is AUDIO related like the Oppo 105 ($1200) which comes with balanced XLR ports ESS Sabre 9018 DAC chip sets (best DAC chip on the market?) And everything above $1200 is what you could call a waste as even the most high end and ridiculously priced cinemas will happily use an Oppo 105 ($1200) with their million dollar setups. You're paying for the brand name and possible build quality (titanium, gold, platinum etc)

The $8000 mcintosh is a complete joke, same with the Goldmund Reference for $135,000 but then again you can ask yourself...


my $500 Seiko watch tells time accurately, does a $4 million reference 2499 Platinum Patek Philippe tell time more accurately? Are the extra features of said Patek Philippe worth me spending an extra $3 999 500 ?

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Oct 4 2014 01:55pm

Nuances eh?

Like being bent over by some company who sells those parts that cost maybe a 100 bucks for thousands for absolutely no discernible difference.

That can be said about a lot of things though..

But yea, Unfortunately in audio it is really easy to buy snake oil, for a lot of money. Just have to be knowledgeable about what you're doing.