Are YOU blind? Or just dense? I said I need more than just cores and GHz from my laptop. I need mobility and battery life, I need fast SSD.

Or should I just change my job too, so that I can use laptop with 2 hours battery life just to have more cores?

Why don't I just carry around desktop with 4x nvidia 1080 and dual xeon, and a power generator? That would be so much more powerful than stupid mac!

This post was edited by nuvo on Apr 5 2017 03:40pm

13-inch MBP: 256GB NVMe M.2 SSD, 8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM, Core i5-6360U CPU, Intel Iris 540 graphics. Retail $1499 via Apple. http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MLL42LL/A&step=config
14-inch Sager NP3245: 250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD, 8GB 2400MHz DDR4 RAM, Core i7-7500U CPU, Intel HD 620 GPU. Retail (as configured) $1029 via Sager. https://www.sagernotebook.com/customize.php?productid=1157

Edit: 13-inch Sager NP3130 with same options (also has higher resolution screen and Thunderbolt 3 support): $1179 https://www.sagernotebook.com/customize.php?productid=1305

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Apr 5 2017 03:47pm

Specs are very close: worse cpu and gpu, but faster RAM, lower resolution screen but matte display. Sadly, as expected, battery life is utter trash at 2-4 hours (according to reviews, battery life is not mentioned anywhere on tech specs?)

I never owned sager/clevo but I heard they're good for the price?

edit for your edit: yeah, that one looks even better. Those really are very close to mbp, even seems to have brushed alu body, except, again, battery...

This post was edited by nuvo on Apr 5 2017 03:57pm

CPU on the Sager is better than the Mac. The Iris 540 is a better GPU than the 620, though.

Ah I was still comparing to 2015 model ( apple downgraded cpu this year?) with its i5-5257U and $1300 price

Maybe I'm a snob but will gladly pay $100 for 8 extra hours of battery

This post was edited by nuvo on Apr 5 2017 04:02pm

I'm not seeing where it says 2-4 hours of battery on the Sager (although, to be fair, I don't where it says anything about battery life, just the power provided by the battery).

Maybe someone should read all the news reviews etc on mbp real battery life
Ignorance at its best

Like this?

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/12/03/macbook-pro-battery-life-concerns/

Ars
Pc world
Etc

Dodged on tablet and phone question too
Love to know what he needs blazing fast drive for most can't tell difference between ssd sata1 to nvme

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Apr 5 2017 04:13pm

Or someone else should actually use it normal work: browser, coding, email, terminals I easily get 12 hours.



why would that matter? Should I tell you what kind of underwear I buy too?

But if you insist: nexus 7 tablet and nexus 5x phone.



You're just very ignorant. All you care about is GHz and number of cores, which is 100% pointless outside of games. 1) mac is not for gaming, 2) laptops are not for gaming



http://laptops.specout.com/l/7181/N240JU just some review and another one that said 2 hours but can't find now. I couldn't find any official data either.

Other problem would be that I can't really buy clevo/sager without paying out of my ass for shipping, customs and 23% vat too and I'd have no warranty on it



assuming modest $20 shipping

So, you found a laptop that's pretty close and if I was in USA I could consider it if I didn't need more battery

+ no idea about build quality, ignoring touchpad etc.

This post was edited by nuvo on Apr 5 2017 04:40pm