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Aug 31 2012 11:12pm
amd is going big with steamroller news, i kinda wanna wait for steamroller now but meh, i don't really care.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-pushes-steamroller-and-excavator-forward-bullish-about-performance-increases/17088.html#

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We haven't included the upcoming Piledriver core (Trinity APU, Vishera CPU) in this comparison due to the fact that internally, Bulldozer and Piledriver are very similar, with the major changes being adding the support to new instructions (FMA4 is being joined by AVX 1.1, AES, F16C etc), improving IPC, reducing leakage by optimizing transistor design and offering a boost in frequency with reduced power consumption.

Comparing Steamroller to Bulldozer makes much more sense, since the two architectures are starting to differ in greater detail. First and foremost, AMD finally addressed the core starvation. Originally, Bulldozer had a single Fetch and single Decode unit, which were in charge of feeding both Integer and Float schedulers. It turns out that the size of those units were too small and quite often you'd waste precious cycles with either ALU or FPU pipelines not doing a thing. Steamroller goes back to square one and keeps the Fetch unit as a single entity, but the Decode part is now doubled. Each Decode unit feeds one INT unit (4 pipelines) and the FP Scheduler, which has three dedicated units (two 128-bit FMAC units which can act as a single 256-bit unit when you need 256-bit AVX. For legacy code, the MMX Unit is now a single separate entity (instead of multiple side half-units in Bulldozer design). Also, one of major improvements is the increase in the instruction cache size. Up until Bulldozer, AMD featured the largest L1 cache in the field - both L1 Instruction (I-Cache) and Data (D-Cache) were the same size (64KB). With 128KB of L1 cache, AMD easily compensated for the size deficit in L2 and L3 cache versus Intel Nehalem and Sandy Bridge architectures. Bulldozer sliced down L1 cache to "better than Pentium 4, but still crap", as one of our sources put it bluntly (16KB L1 D-Cache and 64KB L1 I-Cache). Steamroller increases the size of Instruction cache beyond K7/K8/K10/K10.5/BD, but L1 D-Cache won't remain the same either.


pretty much, piledriver and bulldozer aren't really a big major difference and steamroller is a big change compared to both and they admit that bulldozer was made in a rush...
i kinda now wanna just wait for steamroller instead of piledriver but meh, still unsure, i guess i could always make a piledriver rig this year and when steamroller is in the market, i could buy a decent mobo for not too much and use it for the piledriver cpu to make a htpc or something...
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Sep 3 2012 12:00pm
still no new boards wtf the point of even buying this?
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Sep 3 2012 12:01pm
why would you want to buy a 125/140 watt processor that performs the same as a 2500k but consumes twice the power?

someone please input logic into my brain

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Sep 3 2012 09:51pm
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still no new boards wtf the point of even buying this?


meh, they should be working on something , don't really see what's the point to buy a mobo w/o buying a cpu.
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Sep 3 2012 11:35pm
Quote (Hermione @ Sep 3 2012 10:01am)
why would you want to buy a 125/140 watt processor that performs the same as a 2500k but consumes twice the power?

someone please input logic into my brain


Cuz some of dem are AMD fanboys
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Sep 4 2012 12:55am
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meh, they should be working on something , don't really see  what's the point to buy a mobo w/o buying a cpu.


no i mean where is the new sb/nb cuz its the same shit since am2 z.z
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Sep 4 2012 09:09am
Quote (dolarsignzeroxeighty @ Sep 3 2012 11:51pm)
meh, they should be working on something , don't really see  what's the point to buy a mobo w/o buying a cpu.


whats after the 900 series?

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Cuz some of dem are AMD fanboys


are retarded
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Sep 5 2012 02:41pm
will windows 8 be better for the fx series than windows 7?
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Sep 5 2012 03:20pm
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/processors/computing/pc/is-amds-steamroller-cpu-design-the-companys-last-roll-of-the-dice-1094595

says mostly if steamroller is actually the savior for amd, cuz the benchmark for piledriver don't look good...

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012090201_AMD_plans_six-core_FX-6350_Piledriver_CPU.html

they should release the fx 6350 maybe in october or in the 4th quarter of this year.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/135388-amd-cpu-bonanza-trinity-desktop-prices-intels-counter-and-the-piledriver-fx-8350s-performance

trinity apu's should give intel a hard time in the lower price range, except if intel makes something better.

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/314107,amd-details-its-2013-steamroller-cpu-architecture.aspx

didn't really read it, they mostly just talk about steamroller... it should be a major jump from piledriver and bulldozer, at least that's what we all hope.

@newkid, dunno, would be nice if is tho.

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