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Apr 28 2017 10:56am
Quote (vittujenkevat @ Apr 28 2017 11:54am)
Receiver will take care of level differences and delays caused by distance but it cannot fix limitations of speakers. If it could why would any one buy anything else than cheapest speakers as your receiver could make them sound as any other speaker? It is you who needs to pull the head out of bulls arse.


lol wow so you cant lower the db on your speaker channels on any modern receiver?

oh wow

hahahahaha

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Apr 28 2017 10:57am
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Apr 28 2017 11:04am
Quote (yupitsmeh @ 28 Apr 2017 18:56)
lol wow so you cant lower the db on your speaker channels on any modern receiver?

oh wow

hahahahaha


Apparently you cant either read or understand what you read. Or you have no audio understanding at all.
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Apr 28 2017 11:07am
Quote (vittujenkevat @ Apr 28 2017 12:04pm)
Apparently you cant either read or understand what you read. Or you have no audio understanding at all.


lol dont think you understand why receivers have settings lol

guess all enthusiast have matching center channels lol oh wow

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Apr 28 2017 11:09am
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lol dont think you understand why receivers have settings lol

guess all enthusiast have matching center channels lol oh wow


You surely dont know the subject well to start with. And you are so childish..

I said the receiver handles speaker levels, but apparently you have no idea what that is. Speaker levels are measured in db per channel what you referred to, you are talking about same subject without even knowing it as you lack the knowledge of basic audio terms.

Also it seems you dont know how speakers are working and what limitations different speakers / designs have and how they effect to the end results and what receivers are capable of and what not.

There is really no point to try argue with you as you dont have the basic knowledge and you are trying to pull others to your level.
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Apr 28 2017 05:18pm
what do you guys think of these 2 deals? either deal i would be missing some pieces though lol, like the first deal doesnt come with center and 2 rear speakers

the 2nd deal doesnt come with a subwoofer, but it has everything else

neither deal comes with the receiver

Also whats the benefit to having a tower speaker instead of a bookshelf speaker for the fronts?

https://slickdeals.net/f/10098552-pair-of-klipsch-r-24f-speakers-w-10-r-10sw-300w-subwoofer-399-free-shipping?page=3#commentsBox

$400
Pair of Klipsch R-24F Speakers w/ 10" R-10SW 300W Subwoofer

or

https://www.adorama.com/pkatsx330tba.html?sdtid=10016264&emailprice=t&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905

$330
Polk Audio 2x TSx 330T 2-Way Tower Black/TSx 150C Channel/Bookshelf Speakers
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Apr 28 2017 05:39pm
Quote (vittujenkevat @ Apr 28 2017 03:32pm)
You surely dont know the subject well to start with. And you are so childish..

I said the receiver handles speaker levels, but apparently you have no idea what that is. Speaker levels are measured in db per channel what you referred to, you are talking about same subject without even knowing it as you lack the knowledge of basic audio terms.

Also it seems you dont know how speakers are working and what limitations different speakers / designs have and how they effect to the end results and what receivers are capable of and what not.

There is really no point to try argue with you as you dont have the basic knowledge and you are trying to pull others to your level.


Lol childish you are arguing about modern settings and sound center channel needing to be matching when things can be adjusted
i have owned and been around many receivers actually back in the late 90s when codecs and only setting was pretty much Dolby
I actually have built speakers in college for electronics
Actually repaired many amps

You sound like typical elitist audiophile constantly

Yeah sorry i don't believe in your unicorn and fairy bullshit

Oh so you are saying many enthusiast always buy matching center
And many don't buy to compliment their fronts instead of buying to match the sound



Lol or you just rambling on like usual just like your atmos don't do shit talk too

Rage on
Rage on

Noob either is fine considering what you want to spend

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Lol childish you are arguing about modern settings and sound center channel needing to be matching when things can be adjusted
i have owned and been around many receivers actually back in the late 90s when codecs and only setting was pretty much Dolby
I actually have built speakers in college for electronics
Actually repaired many amps

You sound like typical elitist audiophile constantly

Yeah sorry i don't believe in your unicorn and fairy bullshit

Oh so you are saying many enthusiast always buy matching center
And many don't buy to compliment their fronts instead of buying to match the sound



Lol or you just rambling on like usual just like your atmos don't do shit talk too

Rage on
Rage on

Noob either is fine considering what you want to spend


the polk audio setup is cheaper than the klipsch. both have tower speakers. ive read that tower speakers often do sound better overall because they can produce a better bass response. but i also heard something about that tower speakers usually use more power from the receiver and this can weaken the power that can be send to other speakers?

Also i saw u guys talking about how the receiver can raise or lower the decibels of each speaker independently? right?
Can the receiver also change the different frequencies to each speaker, such as like an EQ? in case certain speakers are playing too harsh higher frequencies?

and if the receiver cant act as an EQ for each speaker, are there any solutions to add on an EQ for cheap that would work well?

Also im aware that these questions might seem a bit excessive to worry about, but i am just curious, trying to learn a bit before i go ahead and make a purchase, because this is a bit expensive lol

This post was edited by noob_whacker on Apr 28 2017 06:26pm
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Apr 28 2017 06:26pm
If you want EQ abilities, it's better to get a separate Equalizer.


/e Back in the day, I had an ADC Sound Shaper III

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the polk audio setup is cheaper than the klipsch. both have tower speakers. ive read that tower speakers often do sound better overall because they can produce a better bass response. but i also heard something about that tower speakers usually use more power from the receiver and this can weaken the power that can be send to other speakers?

Also i saw u guys talking about how the receiver can raise or lower the decibels of each speaker independently? right?
Can the receiver also change the different frequencies to each speaker, such as like an EQ? in case certain speakers are playing too harsh higher frequencies?

and if the receiver cant act as an EQ for each speaker, are there any solutions to add on an EQ for cheap that would work well?

Also im aware that these questions might seem a bit excessive to worry about, but i am just curious, trying to learn a bit before i go ahead and make a purchase, because this is a bit expensive lol


Speakers have their own sound signatures and they vary to different room configurations
Towers in general should be greater with broader range
But there are many book shelves that can compete with many towers
Personal preference in sound signature also applies



Receivers have many preset eq settings some allow more tweaking then just treble mid and bass
Many have audyssey ypao etc to help set up the surround sound
Sometimes it needs tweaking after the fact
You usually can download owners manual and see what you ate getting into before you buy which i suggest you do to know what you are getting into

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Apr 29 2017 12:27am
Quote (noob_whacker @ 29 Apr 2017 01:18)
what do you guys think of these 2 deals? either deal i would be missing some pieces though lol, like the first deal doesnt come with center and 2 rear speakers

the 2nd deal doesnt come with a subwoofer, but it has everything else

neither deal comes with the receiver

Also whats the benefit to having a tower speaker instead of a bookshelf speaker for the fronts?

https://slickdeals.net/f/10098552-pair-of-klipsch-r-24f-speakers-w-10-r-10sw-300w-subwoofer-399-free-shipping?page=3#commentsBox

$400
Pair of Klipsch R-24F Speakers w/ 10" R-10SW 300W Subwoofer

or

https://www.adorama.com/pkatsx330tba.html?sdtid=10016264&emailprice=t&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905

$330
Polk Audio 2x TSx 330T 2-Way Tower Black/TSx 150C Channel/Bookshelf Speakers


I would say AA Monitors with Dayton sub 1200 would be better overall sound for that budget as you compare 2.1 there. Like said before Klipsch tends to have really bright sound. Lower end Polk as well are not the greatest speakers for the money.

Towers generally have better dynamic range and actually often require less power than bookself speakers as they are more sensitive. How ever if you have sub you dont really need to worry about the dynamic range if your bookselfs can go deep enough for crossover. Im some cases (depends on your room) tower speakers can help to even bass response in higher bass area.

Quote (noob_whacker @ 29 Apr 2017 02:17)
the polk audio setup is cheaper than the klipsch. both have tower speakers. ive read that tower speakers often do sound better overall because they can produce a better bass response. but i also heard something about that tower speakers usually use more power from the receiver and this can weaken the power that can be send to other speakers?

Also i saw u guys talking about how the receiver can raise or lower the decibels of each speaker independently? right?
Can the receiver also change the different frequencies to each speaker, such as like an EQ? in case certain speakers are playing too harsh higher frequencies?

and if the receiver cant act as an EQ for each speaker, are there any solutions to add on an EQ for cheap that would work well?

Also im aware that these questions might seem a bit excessive to worry about, but i am just curious, trying to learn a bit before i go ahead and make a purchase, because this is a bit expensive lol


Receiver can adjust the speaker levels and delays so they will play at same level and time if the distances are not the same. Also some receivers have room correction wich tries to reduce room reflections. Most of them have some preset eq that will change the sound signature little. If you want to do proper eq you will need to buy separate eq for that purpose, how ever you would be better of buying speakers you dont need to eq in first place.

Edit: The preset eq is for overall sound, not for separate speakers.

This post was edited by vittujenkevat on Apr 29 2017 12:28am
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