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May 9 2015 09:18pm
Prime95 version differences...






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Over the years, Prime95 has become extremely popular among PC enthusiasts and overclockers as a stability testing utility. It includes a "Torture Test" mode designed specifically for testing PC subsystems for errors in order to help ensure the correct operation of Prime95 on that system. This is important because each iteration of the Lucas-Lehmer depends on the previous one; if one iteration is incorrect, so will be the entire primality test.

The stress-test feature in Prime95 can be configured to better test various components of the computer by changing the fast fourier transform (FFT) size. Three pre-set configurations are available: Small FFTs and In-place FFTs, and Blend. Small and In-place modes primarily test the FPU and the caches of the CPU, whereas the Blend mode tests everything, including the memory.

By selecting Custom, the user can gain further control of the configuration. For example, by selecting 8-8 kB as the FFT size, the program stresses primarily the CPU. By selecting 2048-4096 kB and unchecking the "Run FFTs in-place" checkbox, providing the maximum amount of RAM free in the system, the program tests the memory and the chipset. If the amount of memory to use option is set too high, then the system will start using the paging file and the test will not stress the memory.

On an absolutely stable system, Prime95 would run indefinitely. If an error occurs, at which point the stress test would terminate, this would indicate that the system may be unstable. There is an ongoing debate about terms "stable" and "Prime-stable", as Prime95 often fails before the system becomes unstable or crashes in any other application. This is because Prime95 is designed to subject the CPU to an incredibly intense workload, and to halt when it encounters even one minor error, whereas most normal applications do not stress the CPU anywhere near as much, and will continue to operate unless they encounter a fatal error.

In the overclocking community, a rule of thumb is often used to determine how long to run Prime95: test the CPU (8 kB FFT) for 10 hours and the memory (4096 kB FFT) for 10 hours, and if the system passes, there is a high chance that it is stable. Twenty-four hours of testing is recommended to be sure, as errors may show up after 16 or more hours of testing (compared to, say, just four hours of testing).[7] Moreover, a large proportion of system overclockers and enthusiasts favor Prime95 over other benchmarking suites because Prime95 pushes the CPU's floating point units extremely hard, causing the CPU to become extremely hot. In addition, Prime95 stresses a computer far more than the majority of software based torture-suites. The nature of this is because the operating system usually shuts down the floating-point unit when unused by other programs, whereas Prime95 is well-optimized to continuously and effectively thread the FPU, causing it to be deeply pipelined, thereby generating significantly more heat because of elevated power consumption under the massive workload conditions. In CPUs which are not adequately cooled, errors are likely to occur. Prime95 also constantly accesses main memory at up to 60 MB per second. This constant activity will detect memory problems that other programs will not.

Lastly, power supply units of any machine running Prime95 are subject to the consistent ramifications of such harsh conditions. Power must be maintained clean, while providing adequate voltage, particularly to the CPU, RAM, and chipsets (mainboard chipsets such as the Northbridge where the memory controller may or may not reside; see Athlon 64 or Intel Core i7 for on-die memory controllers) to provide peak performance while maintaining stability. Cray Research used programs similar to Prime95 for over a decade for the purpose of stability testing.[8]


This post was edited by Ghot on May 9 2015 09:19pm
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that doesn't mean anything to me

wat i want to know is what effects each different version has on performance, power consumption, and heat

because idgaf about optimizations and shit if it's going to run my cpu 10c hotter than it needed to
especially considering i run p95 for stability tests not performance reads

This post was edited by Sayaka on May 9 2015 09:22pm
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Quote (Sayaka @ May 9 2015 10:20pm)
that doesn't mean anything to me

wat i want to know is what effects each different version has on performance, power consumption, and heat

because idgaf about optimizations and shit if it's going to run my cpu 10c hotter than it needed to
especially considering i run p95 for stability tests not performance reads




Well try this then...


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An engineer at ASUS advised in a 2012 article on overclocking an Intel X79 system, that it is important to choose testing software carefully in order to obtain useful results:[3]

Unvalidated stress tests are not advised (such as Prime95 or LinX or other comparable applications). For high grade CPU/IMC and System Bus testing Aida64 is recommended along with general applications usage like PC Mark 7. Aida has an advantage as its stability test has been designed for the Sandy Bridge E architecture and test specific functions like AES, AVX and other instruction sets that prime and like synthetics do not touch. As such not only does it load the CPU 100% but will also test other parts of CPU not used under applications like Prime 95. Other applications to consider are SiSoft 2012 or Passmark BurnIn. Be advised validation has not been completed using Prime 95 version 26 and LinX (10.3.7.012) and OCCT 4.1.0 beta 1 but once we have internally tested to ensure at least limited support and operation.

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May 9 2015 09:31pm
interesting

prime 95 version 25.11, Stable pretty much 15+ hours straight n bsod

prime 95 version 28.5 will not run for more than 10 seconds without a bsod. Upped voltages still instantly crashes

wtf
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interesting

prime 95 version 25.11, Stable pretty much 15+ hours straight n bsod

prime 95 version 28.5 will not run for more than 10 seconds without a bsod. Upped voltages still instantly crashes

wtf


:^) this is why prime95 annoys me
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:^) this is why prime95 annoys me




Probably why most ppl have switched to AIDA64 Extreme, for stress testing.

Post #69, here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70079577&f=188&o=50
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Probably why most ppl have switched to AIDA64 Extreme, for stress testing.

Post #69, here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70079577&f=188&o=50


or OCCT
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Probably why most ppl have switched to AIDA64 Extreme, for stress testing.

Post #69, here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70079577&f=188&o=50


i don't like how aida stresses either
fpu stress = 80c, fpu + cpu stress = 65c??
unless that's how it's supposed to work, lol.
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i don't like how aida stresses either
fpu stress = 80c, fpu + cpu stress = 65c??
unless that's how it's supposed to work, lol.




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An engineer at ASUS advised in a 2012 article on overclocking an Intel X79 system, that it is important to choose testing software carefully in order to obtain useful results:[3]

Unvalidated stress tests are not advised (such as Prime95 or LinX or other comparable applications). For high grade CPU/IMC and System Bus testing Aida64 is recommended along with general applications usage like PC Mark 7. Aida has an advantage as its stability test has been designed for the Sandy Bridge E architecture and test specific functions like AES, AVX and other instruction sets that prime and like synthetics do not touch. As such not only does it load the CPU 100% but will also test other parts of CPU not used under applications like Prime 95. Other applications to consider are SiSoft 2012 or Passmark BurnIn. Be advised validation has not been completed using Prime 95 version 26 and LinX (10.3.7.012) and OCCT 4.1.0 beta 1 but once we have internally tested to ensure at least limited support and operation.






Also, although I don't still have the link...Intel recommended AIDA64 as well.


/e Personally I stay away from OCCT. Back in the AMD Phenom 955 days, when I was still OCing, a LOT of folks on overclock.net had damaged their CPU's while running OCCT.
To be fair, others swore by it. ??

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1526/3955 (Kept crashing anything past this)

All on air

With this amazing cooling setup. (Insert sarcasm)






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