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9. Conclusion

This paper presents the first large-scale study of hardware-
induced operating system failures on consumer machines.
Using post-hoc analysis of machine status reports and OS
crash logs, we find that:

Failure rates are non-trivial. Hardware crash rates are
up to 1 in 190 over an 8 month observation period.

Recurrent failures are common. Hardware crashes in-
crease in likelihood by up to two orders of magnitude af-
ter a first such crash occurs, and 20% to 40% of machines
have faults that are intermittent rather than transient.

Recurrent failures happen quickly. As many as 97% of
recurring failures occur within 10 days of the first failure
on a machine.

CPU speed matters. Even minor overclocking signifi-
cantly degrades reliability, and minor underclocking im-
proves reliability. Even absent overclocking, faster CPUs
become faulty more rapidly than slower CPUs.

DRAM faults have spatial locality. Almost 80% of ma-
chines that crashed more than once from a 1-bit DRAM
failure had a recurrence at the same physical address.

Configuration matters. Brand name desktop machines
are more reliable than white box desktops, and brand
name laptops are more reliable than brand name desk-
tops. Machines with more DRAM suffer more one-bit
and CPU errors, but fewer disk failures.

Figure 15 shows a terse summary of our findings, with
comparisons against previous results where available.


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How was this collected?
What does conclusion say?
And read post 26 edit
Date of article?

Fyi every overclocker knows system needs to be tweaked and tweaked throughout time
Q6600 still running that my nephew has
2600k still running wait many users Sandy bridgess are still running


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the both of you stfu, go on discord and hug it out.
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Read edit post
How was this collected?
What does conclusion say?
And read post 26 edit
Date of article?

Fyi every overclocker knows system needs to be tweaked and tweaked throughout time
Q6600 still running that my nephew has
2600k still running wait many users Sandy bridgess are still running


For your convenience I have converted the PDF into images and uploaded them all to Imgur in order.
http://imgur.com/a/U0xu2

The fact that your 2 cpu's are still working and many others are as well doesn't take away from what this study has found at all.

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Sep 6 2017 11:52pm
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Date of article?


date: 2011
by Microsoft

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Sep 7 2017 07:28am
lol overclocking has changed alot by then
this is a study of crash data collected right? no real testing on hardware if was hardware failure or if system just became unstable

and amd better than intel but didnt amd always use multiplers vs intel bclk?
we all know the old dangers of bclk overclocking back in the day
hasnt newer better and smarter hardware came to be?
hasnt newer better and smarter firmware came to be?
hasnt newer better and smarter software came to be?

and many companies are selling overclocked pcs with long warranties

ok I'm done with this
too many fucking variables to have any conclusion considering this is colllected from crash data right? no in house testing to see what the problem was minus the extreme overclocking
and as a frequent ltt ocn, and other forum frequenter I can see many people still running ancient hardware overclocked

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Sep 7 2017 10:21am
Over clocking has proven to degrade components at a faster rate.
As to how much they degrade is random since all silicon is not equal.
This should not even be up for discussion.

As for why op's shit is fucked no one here will know, and everyones merely speculating.
I have not read that study or yepitsmeh's info nor will I, too fucking lazy to bother tbh.

Parts die due to heat and higher voltages.
Heat usually causes certain types of electrolytic condensators to fail as they all contain liquids that will evaporate away.
Voltage (Speed- as they go hand and hand) causes electromigration to happen at a faster rate which results in "bleeding" of the pathways.
The second happens always but higher voltages will speed it up. The first one is only when heat is not managed properly.

To better explain the "bleeding" effect imagine someone pacing back and forth on a floor.
After awhile they will wear into the material no matter what it is, more traffic (more electrons flowing) will cause it to wear faster.
If you want more technical info on how semiconductors work I suggest starting with how a diode works then move your way up.


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Fuck you all for making me type thats shit also.

This post was edited by King Atrhur on Sep 7 2017 10:21am
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Sep 7 2017 10:26am
Quote (King Atrhur @ Sep 7 2017 11:21am)
Over clocking has proven to degrade components at a faster rate.
As to how much they degrade is random since all silicon is not equal.
This should not even be up for discussion.

As for why op's shit is fucked no one here will know, and everyones merely speculating.
I have not read that study or yepitsmeh's info nor will I, too fucking lazy to bother tbh.

Parts die due to heat and higher voltages.
Heat usually causes certain types of electrolytic condensators to fail as they all contain liquids that will evaporate away.
Voltage (Speed- as they go hand and hand) causes electromigration to happen at a faster rate which results in "bleeding" of the pathways.
The second happens always but higher voltages will speed it up. The first one is only when heat is not managed properly.

To better explain the "bleeding" effect imagine someone pacing back and forth on a floor.
After awhile they will wear into the material no matter what it is, more traffic (more electrons flowing) will cause it to wear faster.
If you want more technical info on how semiconductors work I suggest starting with how a diode works then move your way up.


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Fuck you all for making me type thats shit also.


still dont get it
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Sep 7 2017 10:27am
"Electromigration"

Look er up. Overclocks on CPU's that were once stable, can eventually become unstable due to the die itself Literally having it's atoms move around slightly due to the high voltage and heat.


I have a 2700K that ran at 4.7GHZ for the first 5 years of it's life on air cooling when it suddenly started crashing and being unstable. Now it still works but 4.5 GHZ is the highest it can go, on water cooling at that.

This post was edited by kclla on Sep 7 2017 10:28am
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still dont get it


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