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Mar 20 2012 04:26pm
Quote (RedTea @ Mar 20 2012 03:23pm)
Sorry, it's one of the most comfortable mice for palm grip.


One of... as in there could be others.
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Mar 20 2012 04:29pm
Quote (Nerney9 @ Mar 20 2012 08:38pm)
Razer Deathaddr started breaking down on me with 6 months, double clicking everywhere.  Software/Hardware support is terribad.

All in All, yucko.


Couple of things here...

1. The fix for that is super fucking easy, you just cant google. hint : all you have to do is clean the damn thing
2. You got pretty unlucky.

Anyone slating the deathadder is just being a tool. Lets look back at the DA in 2007: best sensor on the market at a very affordable price. Lets look at it today : Still an awesome sensor (since tech has gotten past the point where you'd ever cause skipping etc from moving too quickly) and the price is now relatively low.

Razer as a company, and pretty much all of their products suck, but some of them like the deathadder are great.

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Mar 20 2012 04:31pm
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Mar 20 2012 04:33pm
Quote (silentdeathz @ Mar 20 2012 05:29pm)
Couple of things here...

1.  The fix for that is super fucking easy, you just cant google. hint : all you have to do is clean the damn thing
2. You got pretty unlucky.

Anyone slating the deathadder is just being a tool.  Lets look back at the DA in 2007: best sensor on the market at a very affordable price. Lets look at it today : Still an awesome sensor (since tech has gotten past the point where you'd ever cause skipping etc from moving too quickly) and the price is now relatively low.

Razer as a company, and pretty much all of their products suck, but some of them like the deathadder are great.


I heard great things about the death adder and liked it while it worked, but I went through two of them in 3 months.
I could have just gotten unlucky, but I never bought a Razer product after that.
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Mar 20 2012 04:46pm
Quote (RedTea @ Mar 20 2012 11:33pm)
I heard great things about the death adder and liked it while it worked, but I went through two of them in 3 months.
I could have just gotten unlucky, but I never bought a Razer product after that.


Seems that way to me. I'd had three deathadders over the past 5 years,

First - Was a tool and ripped some of the grip finish off while cleaning - so decided to get a new one once I'd worn through the mousefeet.
Second - Bought a used one (was from a closing LAN centre type place) - started double clicking and the 'grip' covering wears down a bit over time, was cba to open it up, so bought a new one with the updated sensor and braided cord.
Third - Still going strong.

Number of times I've replaced mousefeet through use with DA - Probably like 4 times. One thing about the DA is that doubling up the mosuefeet can help because of the low clearance at the back - although on the newer DA I think they made the base mousefeet thicker.

Have used some difference mice inbetween then etc, but DA remains my favourite mouse. Probably due to it being relatively cheap, having a great shape, and thumb buttons you can actually press. Its difficult to argue with deathadders at like $40, and you're likely to get a free set of replacement mousefeet etc too.

Pretty much all of the features on new mice suc has 49230482309483274032dpi are redundant, so you're only paying for the shape + aesthetic design. Both of which I think the DA has down very well. Some mice ofc like the R.A.T for example are much more customisable / you cant change the weight of a DA, but I cant say I've yearned for either. I tried the RAT ages ago and hated it, but the newer versions of it are probably better.
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Mar 20 2012 04:59pm
Quote (Grief_exe @ Mar 19 2012 10:10pm)
Well he is right. The only difference is some people trick the system by storing your commands on the PCB and catching up.

I thank you for your response, and, please, do not feel that I had neglected to read your previous post that has stated that it can be done via a "tricking" method.

Now, I assume that making a USB keyboard that has more than a 6KRO costs more than that of the making of one that has but a 6KRO feature.
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Mar 20 2012 05:52pm
Quote (silentdeathz @ Mar 20 2012 05:46pm)
Seems that way to me.  I'd had three deathadders over the past 5 years,

First - Was a tool and ripped some of the grip finish off while cleaning - so decided to get a new one once I'd worn through the mousefeet.
Second - Bought a used one (was from a closing LAN centre type place) - started double clicking and the 'grip' covering wears down a bit over time, was cba to open it up, so bought a new one with the updated sensor and braided cord.
Third - Still going strong.

Number of times I've replaced mousefeet through use with DA - Probably like 4 times.  One thing about the DA is that doubling up the mosuefeet can help because of the low clearance at the back - although on the newer DA I think they made the base mousefeet thicker.

Have used some difference mice inbetween then etc, but DA remains my favourite mouse.  Probably due to it being relatively cheap, having a great shape, and thumb buttons you can actually press.  Its difficult to argue with deathadders at like $40, and you're likely to get a free set of replacement mousefeet etc too.

Pretty much all of the features on new mice suc has 49230482309483274032dpi are redundant, so you're only paying for the shape + aesthetic design.  Both of which I think the DA has down very well.  Some mice ofc like the R.A.T for example are much more customisable / you cant change the weight of a DA, but I cant say I've yearned for either. I tried the RAT ages ago and hated it, but the newer versions of it are probably better.


I had issues with the right click, it would stop working etc.
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Mar 20 2012 06:35pm
Quote (RedTea @ Mar 20 2012 04:33pm)
I heard great things about the death adder and liked it while it worked, but I went through two of them in 3 months.
I could have just gotten unlucky, but I never bought a Razer product after that.


Quote (silentdeathz @ Mar 20 2012 04:46pm)
Seems that way to me.  I'd had three deathadders over the past 5 years,

First - Was a tool and ripped some of the grip finish off while cleaning - so decided to get a new one once I'd worn through the mousefeet.
Second - Bought a used one (was from a closing LAN centre type place) - started double clicking and the 'grip' covering wears down a bit over time, was cba to open it up, so bought a new one with the updated sensor and braided cord.
Third - Still going strong.

Number of times I've replaced mousefeet through use with DA - Probably like 4 times.  One thing about the DA is that doubling up the mosuefeet can help because of the low clearance at the back - although on the newer DA I think they made the base mousefeet thicker.

Have used some difference mice inbetween then etc, but DA remains my favourite mouse.  Probably due to it being relatively cheap, having a great shape, and thumb buttons you can actually press.  Its difficult to argue with deathadders at like $40, and you're likely to get a free set of replacement mousefeet etc too.

Pretty much all of the features on new mice suc has 49230482309483274032dpi are redundant, so you're only paying for the shape + aesthetic design.  Both of which I think the DA has down very well.  Some mice ofc like the R.A.T for example are much more customisable / you cant change the weight of a DA, but I cant say I've yearned for either. I tried the RAT ages ago and hated it, but the newer versions of it are probably better.


This is exactly why you can't use your experience or your friends experience as data in an argument.
It is too tiny of a fraction of the whole to sample data from.
One guy may go through 30 DAs while another will have one that lasts for a decade.
Even with a 99% failure rate, you could get that lucky and be that one person who got a working component.

For example OCZ drives, someone will say theirs works fine, but then you sample the internet as a whole and thousands upon thousands of people are having massive issues. The fact that theirs if fine proves nothing and is irrelevant to any discussion.
People want to see official numbers of failure rates and ask for a 'source' but you seriously expect OCZ or any company to release data like that? No, will never happen.

EDIT: I should honestly put this in my sig lol, comes up so much.

This post was edited by Grief_exe on Mar 20 2012 06:36pm
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Quote (Grief_exe @ Mar 20 2012 07:35pm)
This is exactly why you can't use your experience or your friends experience as data in an argument.
It is too tiny of a fraction of the whole to sample data from.
One guy may go through 30 DAs while another will have one that lasts for a decade.
Even with a 99% failure rate, you could get that lucky and be that one person who got a working component.

For example OCZ drives, someone will say theirs works fine, but then you sample the internet as a whole and thousands upon thousands of people are having massive issues. The fact that theirs if fine proves nothing and is irrelevant to any discussion.
People want to see official numbers of failure rates and ask for a 'source' but you seriously expect OCZ or any company to release data like that? No, will never happen.

EDIT: I should honestly put this in my sig lol, comes up so much.


I understand that lol, but I always hear bad things about Razer products.
I'm just backing up what the majority of people say.
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Mar 20 2012 06:52pm
Quote (Grief_exe @ Mar 21 2012 01:35am)
This is exactly why you can't use your experience or your friends experience as data in an argument.
It is too tiny of a fraction of the whole to sample data from.
One guy may go through 30 DAs while another will have one that lasts for a decade.
Even with a 99% failure rate, you could get that lucky and be that one person who got a working component.

For example OCZ drives, someone will say theirs works fine, but then you sample the internet as a whole and thousands upon thousands of people are having massive issues. The fact that theirs if fine proves nothing and is irrelevant to any discussion.
People want to see official numbers of failure rates and ask for a 'source' but you seriously expect OCZ or any company to release data like that? No, will never happen.

EDIT: I should honestly put this in my sig lol, comes up so much.


Very true, but ultimately as worthless as only saying your own personal experience for the very reason you highlighted. I think anyone such as myself speaking about mice such as the deathadder has read countless reviews / browsed FPS forums & tech issues etc, but at the end of the day, you're not going to get anything conclusive, so all you can say is a 'general' opinion on the product weighing up the risk vs reward. And thats exactly why I feel the deathadder is relatively safe.


Quote (RedTea @ Mar 21 2012 01:46am)
I understand that lol, but I always hear bad things about Razer products.
I'm just backing up what the majority of people say.



I disagree with that vehemently. You cannot band all razer producs together like that. Company X might produce a brilliant range of product Y which everyone knows them for, but that doesnt mean their product Z is similarly good. The converse applies.

This post was edited by silentdeathz on Mar 20 2012 06:54pm
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I think we can conclude Razer© is a shit brand.
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