for now if you want new and shiny

Not one single ray tracing shown in any benchmarks. Nvidia obviously wasn't ready for these cards yet.

what are you talking about nvidais ready microsoft and devs arent ready

Nvidia having partnership with these companies. So they should have known that no one would have software ready for the release.
Who knows if ray tracing will even be a proper thing. Doubt most people pre-ordered the card based on the 20% performance difference for double the price of the old generation.
They went all in on ray tracing at the launch event! People can't even use the RT-cores for shit right now.

looking closer to 30% and dlss or rt isnt even considered at this point

if you know anything about tech you know features are always to come later

rt has been tried to be pushed before larrabee, dx12 and vulkan will have rt

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Sep 19 2018 11:30am

They'll make for good rendering gpus if nothing else.
The ray tracing has been around awhile in these applications.

has both 2080 and ti here
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Founders_Edition/33.html

Man I'm dissapointed

how?
30% is pretty good no maxwell or pascal jump but alot better than previous gens

dont tell me you feel entitled to more lol

oh wait 30% with rt and dlss

I think it's probably more for the performance increase per dollar spent. If it had been 799 or so it would be more bearable than the 1199. But I guess they can justify it because they have no competition atm until AMD releases their new cards. Then maybe they'll have some competition.