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Feb 17 2018 09:56pm
Quote (newyorknewjersey @ 14 Feb 2018 03:45)
i need definitely need a cpu x3 to x4 times stonger. is there a compatible CPU with my current build? :)


What you are looking for is quite insane then.
You would need a dual cpu motherboard.
Even the most powerful CPU you can currently get Xeon Platinum 8180 you would barely get 3 times the power. And that price tag is about 10,000$.
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Feb 17 2018 09:59pm
Quote (DCSS @ Feb 17 2018 04:04pm)
5820k imho, can easily push it up to 4.2ghz bare minimum up to 5ghz if lucky and it will be an absolute monster compared to that piece of shit xeon.
7700k would be a downgrade in comparison, unless you compare them both at stock speeds which would be silly. Ignore the multi recommending babby lake.



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yes i have since apoligized to both of them via pm. i do feel like an ass. traumatizing effects of using jsp. i mostly greatly feel bad. and like ive said ive aplogized to them hours ago. i do feel just terrible.

*yes you hit on the head as well as everyone else who tried to help me on this thread. im sorry. i think im going jsp crazy. :wacko:

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Quote (ZwiX @ Feb 17 2018 10:56pm)
What you are looking for is quite insane then.
You would need a dual cpu motherboard.
Even the most powerful CPU you can currently get Xeon Platinum 8180 you would barely get 3 times the power. And that price tag is about 10,000$.


that was just more arse talk. i knew i had a choice at a better option when i first built the pc. i belive it was 4.2ghz but dont quote me on that. i honestly dont remember. all i knew was my head was spinning from price tag. i feel bad for talking the guy into lying to me convincingly believe it was okay. No now i know i was lying to myself. it was not ok! And i have to buy it again anyway. smh face slammed myself... the mission is to find that processor :lol:
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Feb 17 2018 10:18pm
Quote (newyorknewjersey @ 18 Feb 2018 06:10)
that was just more arse talk. i knew i had a choice at a better option when i first built the pc. i belive it was 4.2ghz but dont quote me on that. i honestly dont remember. all i knew was my head was spinning from price tag. i feel bad for talking the guy into lying to me convincingly believe it was okay. No now i know i was lying to myself. it was not ok! And i have to buy it again anyway. smh face slammed myself... the mission is to find that processor :lol:


These will be your best options:
Intel Xeon E5-2687W
Intel Core i7-6950X
Intel Xeon E5-2687W V4
Intel Xeon E5-2690 V4
Intel Xeon E5-2697 V3

You are most likely thinking about 6950X because of the high clock speed you are mentioning. You are most likely able to buy these pretty cheap used.

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These will be your best options:
Intel Xeon E5-2687W
Intel Core i7-6950X
Intel Xeon E5-2687W V4
Intel Xeon E5-2690 V4
Intel Xeon E5-2697 V3

You are most likely thinking about 6950X because of the high clock speed you are mentioning. You are most likely able to buy these pretty cheap used.


Honestly that one you just mentioned definitely sounds like it was the other option he had for me that day. As it's really popping out to me. I will take a look at your recommendations. I Definitely want to aim for the best one
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Feb 17 2018 10:31pm
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Honestly that one you just mentioned definitely sounds like it was the other option he had for me that day. As it's really popping out to me. I will take a look at your recommendations. I Definitely want to aim for the best one


This will only yield another 75% in more processing power. If you push it to the limit with OC. Maybe close to 100%. far from the 200-300% leap in power you were hoping for.
Look into the used market. Many jumped from 6950x over to skylake-x because of the 8 core jump from the previous generation.

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This will only yield another 75% in more processing power. If you push it to the limit with OC. Maybe close to 100%. far from the 200-300% leap in power you were hoping for.
Look into the used market. Many jumped from 6950x over to skylake-x because of the 8 core jump from the previous generation.


not only do you get 2 extra cores with a 6950x but way higher clock speed. He didn't say he overclocked the xeon so I'm assuming it's still at 2.1ghz. Not outside the realm of possibility since that's probably a bit harder to OC than the extreme edition chips. Same architecture running at 4.5+ ghz with 2 extra cores.. yeah that's a lot more than twice as good, even if the 6950x only had 8 cores it would still be over twice as fast from the clock advantage alone.

What game are you mass botting anyway? Don't you think it would have been a better investment to mine crypto than leech off some mmo's economy? The chinese are going to be doing it more cost efficiently than you no matter what.

I also don't see how each of the 15-20 VM's can be using 5gb of RAM if you only have 64gb.

If that wasn't a typo; I don't see how 20 of any game that uses only 5mb of RAM per VM would need even a fraction of the cpu horsepower you currently have, let alone a 6950x. Like the only game I can think of that might work with that amount of memory is the original warcraft: orcs & humans that came out the year i was born. You must be experiencing massive overhead from the vm's themselves.

This post was edited by DCSS on Feb 18 2018 08:08am
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@ OP. Here are your choices, pretty much.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#X=30191,150502&sort=price&page=1&Z=2930,4700



/e I sorted for 2.9Ghz or better, that are compatible with your motherboard.





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Quote (DCSS @ Feb 18 2018 08:49am)
not only do you get 2 extra cores with a 6950x but way higher clock speed. He didn't say he overclocked the xeon so I'm assuming it's still at 2.1ghz. Not outside the realm of possibility since that's probably a bit harder to OC than the extreme edition chips. Same architecture running at 4.5+ ghz with 2 extra cores.. yeah that's a lot more than twice as good, even if the 6950x only had 8 cores it would still be over twice as fast from the clock advantage alone.

What game are you mass botting anyway? Don't you think it would have been a better investment to mine crypto than leech off some mmo's economy? The chinese are going to be doing it more cost efficiently than you no matter what.

I also don't see how each of the 15-20 VM's can be using 5gb of RAM if you only have 64gb.

If that wasn't a typo; I don't see how 20 of any game that uses only 5mb of RAM per VM would need even a fraction of the cpu horsepower you currently have, let alone a 6950x. Like the only game I can think of that might work with that amount of memory is the original warcraft: orcs & humans that came out the year i was born. You must be experiencing massive overhead from the vm's themselves.


All try to answer all your questions here goes

No I never tried oc my current cpu. I do see msi afterburner prog on pc. Like yesterday. But honestly I'm Little scared to mess with that

My friends and I play d3 ;)

Lordy lordy lord. You just went inside my head. I was just talking to my family members about mining this crypto currency. I have to learn. I have to learn this!!! Is there a crypto mining school?

So this mother board has 8 bays and I was able to find this ram again. So I didn't list it as a question. But yes 100% the ram will be need to be upped. 64 is enough for about 10 vm. In all honesty realistic goals is 10 to 15. 20 was just a ball park number

Phew I think I got them all. And thanks for the info. :)

This post was edited by newyorknewjersey on Feb 18 2018 02:15pm
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Quote (DCSS @ 18 Feb 2018 15:49)
not only do you get 2 extra cores with a 6950x but way higher clock speed. He didn't say he overclocked the xeon so I'm assuming it's still at 2.1ghz. Not outside the realm of possibility since that's probably a bit harder to OC than the extreme edition chips. Same architecture running at 4.5+ ghz with 2 extra cores.. yeah that's a lot more than twice as good, even if the 6950x only had 8 cores it would still be over twice as fast from the clock advantage alone.

What game are you mass botting anyway? Don't you think it would have been a better investment to mine crypto than leech off some mmo's economy? The chinese are going to be doing it more cost efficiently than you no matter what.

I also don't see how each of the 15-20 VM's can be using 5gb of RAM if you only have 64gb.

If that wasn't a typo; I don't see how 20 of any game that uses only 5mb of RAM per VM would need even a fraction of the cpu horsepower you currently have, let alone a 6950x. Like the only game I can think of that might work with that amount of memory is the original warcraft: orcs & humans that came out the year i was born. You must be experiencing massive overhead from the vm's themselves.


No it wouldn't be twice as fast from clock advantage.
E5-2620 V4 is 2.1 with boost at 3.0
6950x is 3.0 with boost at 3.7

With stock clock that's an 75% increase (2 extra cores included) and an additional 25% with an OC.

- BTW OP you should not pay retail price for an 6950x it's not worth the money. An 7900x 10core from the newest generation is 1000$ MSRP and it even has higher clockes and can often reach higher overclocks.
Hence why an used 6950x should be about 600-700$. Since performance wise it actually closer to a 7820x at 569$ new.
BTW Afterburner is for GPU overclocking. Best overclocking is done in BIOS, but can also be done in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility.

This post was edited by ZwiX on Feb 18 2018 04:42pm
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