All the MSI laptops have been fairly decent.

I still like this one the best...

MSI GS Series GS63VR STEALTH PRO-078

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA57X6D79051



I translated the one you liked, and the only thing I saw that bothered me was the word "hybrid" in the storage specs. I never liked hybrid drives, IF it really has one, or is just a translator problem.




/e In the spec of the one on the German website it says...

hard disk
2,256 TB Hybrid Consists of: 2 hard drives 256GB SSD (M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe) + 2TB (SATA) 5400rpm



If it's really a hybrid then ...yuck. If it's really a 256GB AND a separate 2TB then it's ok.

I can't read German, so I'm not sure if Google translate added the word hybrid or not.

There are SSHD drives which suck. They has a SSD and a HDD in one enclosure.

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 28 2017 03:47am

datasheet says: 256GB SSD (M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe) +2TB (SATA) 5400rpm

so i guess its 2 drives. most likely gonna cash out some ripple tomorrow and start my order, unless i somehow luckily run into a european version of the stealth pro you linked.

Mainly the Stealth Pro has Intel wireless and a GTX 1070.

/e You don't NEED a GTX 1070. I just like them, because IF you decide to play a game that needs better grfx, you will still be fine.

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 28 2017 03:53am

went for a gtx1070 version with single ssd card for close to 2k. the one i linked really had a hybrid. meh..

rip ripple

i dont really understand how a hybrid can have m.2 flash memory. Or why they would tie such an amount of solid storage to a mere 5400rpm drive. Or why they would call it an SSD if it were the internal component of a hybrid.

Likely they are separate and it's just a bad translation. I've never heard of such a massive disk cache. It's also far too much to be intel xpoint at such a price.

This post was edited by DCSS on Dec 29 2017 06:09am

well i dont know much about it. i called the support and asked if it was a hybrid drive and they said yes, so i changed for the gtx1070 version which has 2 seperate drives confirmed by amazon hotline.

Always better to check.

/e You got a link to the one you ordered?

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 29 2017 06:24am

https://www.amazon.de/MSI-GS63VR-7RG-005-7700HQ-GTX1070/dp/B01MTB6XZ7

this one. amazon warehouse deal for 2099,99. opened but new condition. guess thats worth a shot. can return for 1 month so np.

Here's a review on it...

https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GS63VR-7RG-Stealth-Pro-i7-7700HQ-GTX-1070-Max-Q-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.267802.0.html

If by notebook, you mean the small one i would go with xiaomi, my wife has their mi book and it is great quality and great bank for buck. If you dont care about the size then prostar is best bang for you buck on that. Not pretty but great customer service and warranty.