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Jul 7 2017 03:18am
Quote (noob_whacker @ 7 Jul 2017 11:09)
the first tower speakers i posted are 43inch tall. and the 2nd, the braun are around 22 inch tall. both are decent sized. but the first ones, the KLH have a much bigger woofer, but take much more power...

yea true about if they sound good to me. but ill be buying them locally from some random person who probably doesnt know anything about speakers and i doubt they can hook it up to test it out. it would be nice yea. i would want to see that they work at the very least. im torn between which ones i should get. i really do like the super large speakers lol.... but the 2nd pair i listed are much fukin older, from 1976, that scares me, like they will burst into flames lol

oh wow, i thought the refoam kit needed to be specific to the speaker being refoamed?


If you cant audition them I would stay away from both of them as many old speakers don't sound so good, there can be some gems but you wont know untill you have auditioned them. There are some brands you can expect something from, but still I would advice to audition them first IF YOU like them. Speakers will last for decades if they are not abused, so nothing to worry there. Speaker surrounds can how ever rot with time and they can be replaced with kits like I linked, it doesn't need to be specific for your speakers as long as it is the right size.
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Jul 7 2017 03:20am
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Like said, it is maximum power they can handle, not the required power. In normal listening you are only using few watts. Speaker / element size has close to no effect on the power needed. It is more of your room size, desired listening volumes and speaker sensitivity.



hmmmm i do understand most of what you said, except how the speaker size has no effect on the power needed?

for subwoofers, the larger the woofer, the more power generally required to push it? wonder why is it that a tweeter will die if it handles too much power, yet some larger subwoofers will not budge unless it gets much more power than the amount that would kill a tweeter?

i could be wrong on my reasoning and such, but curious as to why i am wrong, if so, to learn?

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 7 2017 05:16am)
The speakers in the pic you posted, only need 5w to work. They will "handle" 325w


yea they said minimum is 5w. but idk it seems like 5 w on a 3 way speaker with a large woofer wont do much?

Quote (vittujenkevat @ Jul 7 2017 05:18am)
If you cant audition them I would stay away from both of them as many old speakers don't sound so good, there can be some gems but you wont know untill you have auditioned them. There are some brands you can expect something from, but still I would advice to audition them first IF YOU like them. Speakers will last for decades if they are not abused, so nothing to worry there. Speaker surrounds can how ever rot with time and they can be replaced with kits like I linked, it doesn't need to be specific for your speakers as long as it is the right size.


ok thanks yea. ive looked up a few reviews on the KLH speakers and they are pretty good. But it seems like the braun L500A have slightly better reviews. although thats subjective.

and it looks like the KLH 7701 were made in 1990-1993. so thats like at least 14 years newer

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Jul 7 2017 03:26am
If your looking for speakers from the mid-late 70's, check out JBL, Bose etc. They were pretty nice back in the day.

/e I still like my Kenwoods better (compared to other speaker sets in the barracks). :D

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hmmmm i do understand most of what you said, except how the speaker size has no effect on the power needed?

for subwoofers, the larger the woofer, the more power generally required to push it? wonder why is it that a tweeter will die if it handles too much power, yet some larger subwoofers will not budge unless it gets much more power than the amount that would kill a tweeter?

i could be wrong on my reasoning and such, but curious as to why i am wrong, if so, to learn?

yea they said minimum is 5w. but idk it seems like 5 w on a 3 way speaker with a large woofer wont do much?


Different speakers have different designs. What matters is speaker sensitivity as that tells you how much power is needed to produce certain sound levels with said speaker.

Any speaker will die if you feed them too much power, tweeter needs less power as it weights less than larger woofers. Bigger woofers how ever don't necessarily need more power to produce same spl as smaller woofer as they have bigger surface for moving air and it needs to move less than smaller woofer to produce same spl.
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Jul 7 2017 03:31am
Look at the specs of those speakers I posted above. See the "Sensitivity"?
They are rated at 98db/watt. That's pretty loud.

You can Google db and find sites that have charts as to how loud it is.

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If your looking for speakers from the mid-late 70's, check out JBL, Bose etc. They were pretty nice back in the day.

/e I still like my Kenwoods better (compared to other speaker sets in the barracks). :D


i just want cheap speakers lol. and large ones. but i want them to sound decent also. and these older speakers are being sold around me. at least 3 or 4 pairs of these for under $50. i wont buy a pair unless its around $25 or $30 though, trying to bargain lol. for $30 i think its a decent upgrade over my daytons i got now. and i can then switch these new bigass speakers to the front. and then move the old daytons to my rear. and them move the rear daytons into storage.

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 7 2017 05:31am)
Look at the specs of those speakers I posted above. See the "Sensitivity"?
They are rated at 98db/watt. That's pretty loud.

You can Google db and find sites that have charts as to how loud it is.


not specifically looking for older speakers because of their age though. if anything i dont really want speakers from the 70s lol. but the 90s is a bit better. although from what ive read, older speakers can sound around as good as newer speakers. as the technology has not changed that much within them.

Quote (vittujenkevat @ Jul 7 2017 05:27am)
Different speakers have different designs. What matters is speaker sensitivity as that tells you how much power is needed to produce certain sound levels with said speaker.

Any speaker will die if you feed them too much power, tweeter needs less power as it weights less than larger woofers. Bigger woofers how ever don't necessarily need more power to produce same spl as smaller woofer as they have bigger surface for moving air and it needs to move less than smaller woofer to produce same spl.


ok thanks for the info. but i dont know if i can find the sensitivity rating of these speakers lol. they r so damn old.

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Jul 7 2017 03:42am
Buying old speakers like that without auditioning is like buying a lottery ticket.

You could get decent towers for 150$ like http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-core-series-dual-5-3-way-floorstanding-speaker-each-black/5926456.p?skuId=5926456 open box. But then again you should audition them to be sure you like them.
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Quote (vittujenkevat @ Jul 7 2017 05:42am)
Buying old speakers like that without auditioning is like buying a lottery ticket.

You could get decent towers for 150$ like http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-core-series-dual-5-3-way-floorstanding-speaker-each-black/5926456.p?skuId=5926456 open box. But then again you should audition them to be sure you like them.


thats $150 each. i only want to get these cause they r super cheap. and yea i know it is a huge risk. ill do my best to be able to listen to them before buying.

theres also the infinity cs3006 i can get super cheap but the person is quite far away. these were introduced in 1993 and discontinued in 1996. so they are old but not too old. http://portablemedia.manualsonline.com/manuals/mfg/infinity/cs_3006.html

same info, different site : https://www.manualslib.com/manual/76899/Infinity-Crescendo-Cs-3006.html

they take 30 to 150 watts, and sensitivity of 90db

but i think my receiver is only meant for 6 ohms? does that mean it cannot be used to power these 8 ohm speakers?

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Jul 7 2017 03:55am
I would double check the specs on your receiver. It will list which impedance(s) it can handle (provide). 6 ohm, doesn't sound right?


/e I would expect a receiver could do 4 and 8 ohm... maybe more these days.

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thats $150 each. i only want to get these cause they r super cheap. and yea i know it is a huge risk. ill do my best to be able to listen to them before buying.

theres also the infinity cs3006 i can get super cheap but the person is quite far away. these were introduced in 1993 and discontinued in 1996. so they are old but not too old. http://portablemedia.manualsonline.com/manuals/mfg/infinity/cs_3006.html

same info, different site : https://www.manualslib.com/manual/76899/Infinity-Crescendo-Cs-3006.html

they take 30 to 150 watts, and sensitivity of 90db

but i think my receiver is only meant for 6 ohms? does that mean it cannot be used to power these 8 ohm speakers?


My bad, too used for pricing for pair instead of each speaker..

Infinity have had some good speakers, but hard to say again how you would like those.

High end receivers can handle different impedances quite well, but lower end receivers might have problems. How ever those infinity are sensitive speakers and should be easy to drive.

Quote (Ghot @ 7 Jul 2017 11:55)
I would double check the specs on your receiver. It will list which impedance(s) it can handle (provide). 6 ohm, doesn't sound right?

/e I would expect a receiver could do 4 and 8 ohm... maybe more these days.


There are some 6Ohm speakers out there. Most receivers have either 4 or 8 Ohm but what ever speakers you use you should keep your receiver at 8 Ohms if there is switch for it.
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