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Jun 30 2017 05:34pm
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I mean my friend ran his phenom at 75-80c for years. it wasn't bulldozer but it had the same operating temp of 62c. It never died, he ended up retiring it
I'd argue you should get the most out of something like an 8320e while you can, you probly arent going to be using it for years to come at this point
if under normal full load hes getting 54c he has some safe headroom. just how i feel.





Yeah I have a 955 and associated mobo and parts, sitting in closet. He was prolly using the package temp, which is 74C max.
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Jun 30 2017 05:35pm
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Yeah I have a 955 and associated mobo and parts, sitting in closet. He was prolly using the package temp, which is 74C max.


package temp can't be higher than core temp, can it?
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Jun 30 2017 05:36pm
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package temp can't be higher than core temp, can it?





On Phenom and Piledriver it sure can.
I've overclocked both.



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Here's my quickie piledriver overclock...


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73181067&f=188

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Jun 30 2017 05:37pm
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On Phenom and Piledriver it sure can.
I've overclocked both.


that is strange, where else could the heat be leaking into the package from besides the core? the power delivery circuit?
under a sustained load at least... if the core never gets to 74c i dont see how the package could unless there was more at play here

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Jun 30 2017 05:42pm
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that is strange, where else could the heat be leaking into the package from besides the core? the power delivery circuit?
under a sustained load at least... if the core never gets to 74c i dont see how the package could unless there was more at play here



See, link above. In my edit.

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Jun 30 2017 05:43pm
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See, link above. In my edit.


So what's the cause? Heat leaking from the VRM's into the socket?
Might be less prevalent on his motherboard if they are further away/better cooled...
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Jun 30 2017 05:44pm
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If that is the core temp, then no.
If you can get the CPU voltage lower, and still be stable, then you might have a bit more OC in that sucker.

The voltage is what causes the high temp. You already have an 800Mhz OC....that's pretty good.


yeah i feel pretty good about it lol dont like messing with voltages tho
Quote (DCSS @ Jun 30 2017 07:32pm)
I mean my friend ran his phenom at 75-80c for years. it wasn't bulldozer but it had the same operating temp of 62c. It never died, he ended up retiring it
I'd argue you should get the most out of something like an 8320e while you can, you probly arent going to be using it for years to come at this point
if under normal full load hes getting 54c he has some safe headroom. just how i feel.


i hear ya im not gonna have this CPU too much longer or GPU but same time dont wanna start the mf on fire or sumthin haha thanks guys
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Jun 30 2017 05:46pm
@OP What are you using to stress test your overclock?






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So what's the cause? Heat leaking from the VRM's into the socket?
Might be less prevalent on his motherboard if they are further away/better cooled...



Naw, it's just the way bulldozer and piledriver are built. The core temp is NOT a linear scale. It's logarithmic. At about 45C (according to AMD engineers) it starts to show the accurate core temp.

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Jun 30 2017 05:49pm
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yeah i feel pretty good about it lol dont like messing with voltages tho

i hear ya im not gonna have this CPU too much longer or GPU but same time dont wanna start the mf on fire or sumthin haha thanks guys


no chance of a fire it will throttle/shut down long before that, this ain't the Socket A Athlon days
Just don't underestimate how much abuse a cpu can take
esp if ur replacing it soon

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Jun 30 2017 06:08pm



That's NOT an Intel chip bro. Don't overestimate what it can take.


At 100% load you want that 8320 to be no hotter than it is right now.

A little overclock, like you have now is fine. But if you start getting closer to that 62C core temp, you need to be really careful.
At worst, you will shorten the CPUs lifespan.

More importantly, if you aren't testing for stability, then the higher you OC, the more likely you will BSOD, or even corrupt files.
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