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Oct 16 2013 11:15am
So, I decided to start saving money and buy parts to build a computer. I want top of the line, best stuff..
(Edit: I5 core processor, 4-6gigs ram, 500gb harddrive, nVidia GT450 video card, etc.. not high end BRAND NAME, just high performance)

Right now, I play Diablo 3 on computer.. But in the future, I want to play assassins creed black flag, and any other games that
may come out on PC..

He says the cheaper and better way to go is buy exactly what I need for Diablo 3, then upgrade later..
This is how I feel about it:

If I buy the parts JUST to play Diablo 3, what am I going to do in a few months for Black flag?
I'll have to sell, and rebuy the parts..

If I buy top of the line now: Not only do I not have to upgrade when black flag is out,(if not already)
I wont have to upgrade for a few years.. Saving money in the long run, only to spend a little bit more now..


I'm not computer savy, but he is a " know it all " on computers.. He is a very good guy, good at heart and wants
whats best for me I know, but he NEVER listens and understands what I am trying to say..... Never tries to listen

How can I explain this to him? He says " What if they change everything " when I said Iwont have to upgrade
in the future.. I asked him what he meant and he didn't say anything except " You'll see.. If you want to do it the hard way.. "

It's frustrating me that he wont see it from my point of view or even consider looking into what I am saying..

This post was edited by NecroMunga on Oct 16 2013 11:19am
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Oct 16 2013 11:24am
It's best to buy all at once rather then buy parts unless theres a solid deal on one and you know your buying everything with a month or so.
Nothing wrong with what you selected stick with 4gb ram not 6. Have room to go to 8gb though in future.

Most IT people are know it all's but this is a simple process.

Don't skip on the PSU can't stress that enough with any build.
Same goes for mobo, get something test and known not a generic run of the mill random ass board.
Ram is w/e, as for a 500gb Hard Drive focus on a western digital. video card can always be changed later (provided psu supports it)
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Oct 16 2013 11:26am
I understand this, but how do I explain to him how buying the higher end parts will save me money in the future?

Basically im trying to explain why spending 100$ on a video card that I need to upgrade in a year from now and have to spend another 200 for the new one,
where if i spend 200 now, I wont have to upgrade next year saving me 100$...
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Oct 16 2013 11:27am
big case (for dem expantions)
#1 processor (haswell i7 of some sort)
#1 mobo (kind of an irreplaceable so to speak so read up)
#1 power supply (750w bronze certified or something of the lke)

the just get d3 options for the rest and upgrade later (this will save you money in the long run)

/e just get the 200 one lol, 660 is still a decent option these days.

This post was edited by Penguins0690 on Oct 16 2013 11:30am
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Oct 16 2013 11:28am
Set your budget and from there you can figure things out.

With a desktop, once you've selected your motherboard and processor, those things don't change until you upgrade your entire computer. Your hard drive won't need to be upgraded at all. Your CD/DVD drive won't need to be upgraded. Your case won't need to be upgraded. And so long as you select a good 500W or higher power supply, your power supply won't need to be upgraded. The RAM on your computer will be fine as long as you get 8GB, you won't need more.

So really, the only thing you ONLY MIGHT NEED to upgrade on your computer over a 3-5 year span (if anything at all, ever) is your graphics card.

So the "you'll have to upgrade in a few months" information is a bunch of bullshit. Whoever said that doesn't even know computers. Though, if you get a GT450 graphics card, then you needed to upgrade a couple years ago lol. You'll only need to upgrade in a few months if you buy crappy stuff right now. If you buy good stuff right now, you'll be buying a whole new computer in 3-5 years down the line... not upgrading.

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Oct 16 2013 11:28am
okay guys, I know this.. How do I explain to the guy whos not understanding this?! >.<
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Oct 16 2013 11:29am
Quote (NecroMunga @ Oct 16 2013 10:28am)
okay guys, I know this.. How do I explain to the guy whos not understanding this?! >.<


Say what I said in post #5. Remember to mention the part about him not knowing computers ;)
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Oct 16 2013 11:29am
Quote (NecroMunga @ Oct 16 2013 01:26pm)
I understand this, but how do I explain to him how buying the higher end parts will save me money in the future?

Basically im trying to explain why spending 100$ on a video card that I need to upgrade in a year from now and have to spend another 200 for the new one,
where if i spend 200 now, I wont have to upgrade next year saving me 100$...


Buy within your needs. He's right in this sense.
spend 100 now then spend 200 when you need it not other way around.

I always go big and spend 2-3k on a new rig but thats me and I use it.
Most of my friends get away with a 500-1k build and replace it yearly vs me replacing every 3 or so.

Sure at first I have better but in the end they end up having a better rig.
It all boils down to your budget and needs. considering wow is old as shit now in teh gaming world
don't invest into more unless you have plans to pick up something new that requires more.
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Oct 16 2013 11:32am
Quote (NecroMunga @ Oct 16 2013 05:15pm)
He says " What if they change everything " when I said Iwont have to upgrade in the future.. I asked him what he meant and he didn't say anything except " You'll see.. If you want to do it the hard way.. "


My best guess on this is that the top of the line stuff you buy today is not the top of the line stuff tomorrow. PC requirements and inovations only go up and you can never future proof anything. I think his stance is buy what you need today and upgrade for what you want to do in the future as soon as you actually need the boost. Yes you lose some money this way but if you buy your top of the line stuff today and in two years want to play a very demanding game, then you are left upgrading your then top of the line hardware

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Oct 16 2013 11:33am
Quote (King Atrhur @ Oct 16 2013 12:29pm)
Buy within your needs. He's right in this sense.
spend 100 now then spend 200 when you need it not other way around.

I always go big and spend 2-3k on a new rig but thats me and I use it.
Most of my friends get away with a 500-1k build and replace it yearly vs me replacing every 3 or so.

Sure at first I have better but in the end they end up having a better rig.
It all boils down to your budget and needs. considering wow is old as shit now in teh gaming world
don't invest into more unless you have plans to pick up something new that requires more.


i spent 1500 on my rig and its running strong 3 years later still. I don't have anyhting overclocked yet either. what kind of shit builds are they making for 1grand?
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