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Feb 17 2011 08:43pm
So far I have 4 sm57s and 2 condensers for overhang. Any suggestions for a cheap kick mic?
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Feb 18 2011 02:12pm
Try an inexpensive large diaphragm condenser.

M-Audio Nova maybe? You wouldn't put it right in the kick, maybe about 1ft from the kick not pointing at the sound hole, or use a pop filter to decrease the air pressure.
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Quote (Superchum @ Feb 18 2011 03:12pm)
Try an inexpensive large diaphragm condenser.

M-Audio Nova maybe? You wouldn't put it right in the kick, maybe about 1ft from the kick not pointing at the sound hole, or use a pop filter to decrease the air pressure.


I dunno, I play kinda loud, so isolation from the rest of the kit is pretty important. Any other ideas? The only other one around that range I could find was this: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/CAD-KBM412-Bass-and-Kick-Drum-Microphone?sku=270774

Also, I don't really know what to look for as far as specs go for a mic. What does SPL mean? What frequency range should I look for?
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Quote (Ghost_Smoke @ Feb 18 2011 05:52pm)
I dunno, I play kinda loud, so isolation from the rest of the kit is pretty important. Any other ideas? The only other one around that range I could find was this: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/CAD-KBM412-Bass-and-Kick-Drum-Microphone?sku=270774

Also, I don't really know what to look for as far as specs go for a mic. What does SPL mean? What frequency range should I look for?


You want something that goes low, less than 60hz at +-0 db. SPL means Sound Pressure Level, or how loud something is.

The CAD mic is a typical BD mic. Would do the trick. It has a 14db Boost at 85hz. That's a lot of bass. It looks like it rolls off around 35hz. The bass response on the Nova goes right down to 20hz and is flat from 150-20hz. This wouldn't be as exaggerated in the low end but it would have a more accurate representation. If you get the NOVA low to the ground and eq out the high end (anything above 400hz) you wont have very much bleed from anything else. I only use those football looking mics for live, but recording is so different. It's worth trying out. As a test to give you an idea of what condensers do with kick drums, place one of your condensers above you kit and between the snare and floor tom pointed at the floor. Raise it to just above your highest cymbal. Than place the other condenser 1 ft from the bass drum just off of the sound hole. 6-8 inches off the ground. See what you think of that bass drum sound. Add a snare mic and you might even find thats enough!
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Quote (Superchum @ Feb 19 2011 01:17pm)
You want something that goes low, less than 60hz at +-0 db. SPL means Sound Pressure Level, or how loud something is.

The CAD mic is a typical BD mic. Would do the trick. It has a 14db Boost at 85hz. That's a lot of bass. It looks like it rolls off around 35hz. The bass response on the Nova goes right down to 20hz and is flat from 150-20hz. This wouldn't be as exaggerated in the low end but it would have a more accurate representation. If you get the NOVA low to the ground and eq out the high end (anything above 400hz) you wont have very much bleed from anything else. I only use those football looking mics for live, but recording is so different. It's worth trying out. As a test to give you an idea of what condensers do with kick drums, place one of your condensers above you kit and between the snare and floor tom pointed at the floor. Raise it to just above your highest cymbal. Than place the other condenser 1 ft from the bass drum just off of the sound hole. 6-8 inches off the ground. See what you think of that bass drum sound. Add a snare mic and you might even find thats enough!


Thanks for your input. We're working on a set-up that would allow us to mic each piece. I suppose much of it is experimental, like the positioning and levels and such. I'll try what you said, and let you know the result. Might be a while, we're still getting funds together to get the gear.
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Feb 19 2011 07:09pm
Cheap?

Haha although this sounds stupid, my friend and I were just recently recording with a Rock Band Mic and it works pretty fucking well (especially if it's SOLELY for the kick, we were using it to record everything as an Overhead Mic).
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Cheap?

Haha although this sounds stupid, my friend and I were just recently recording with a Rock Band Mic and it works pretty fucking well (especially if it's SOLELY for the kick, we were using it to record everything as an Overhead Mic).


You can't be serious...really?
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You can't be serious...really?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAf-4fnllQ0 - No Mics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Y7GcQrQ08 - A Rockband Mic (actually it was just sitting in front of the kick)


Makes a world of difference.
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Quote (Sonor @ Feb 20 2011 11:02am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAf-4fnllQ0 - No Mics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Y7GcQrQ08 - A Rockband Mic (actually it was just sitting in front of the kick)


Makes a world of difference.


Wow, my hesitance to believe you was well founded. Both of those sound fucking terrible. No offense, but I'm looking for a much higher quality.
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