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Jul 13 2008 03:02pm
yep i need help on the notes on the guitar, i know a few ( exmple : 2nd fret of A string = b ) and i know that the 12 fret is equal to the open string notes and the notes after are like a ''mirror'' of the notes before the 12th fret.

i learned it on this scale which i forget the name of T.T

e---------------------------------------------------------------- 0----1-----3
b----------------------------------------------------0--1--3----
g---------------------------------------------0--2-----------
d----------------------------------0--2--3----------------------
a----------------0-----2-----3-------------------------------
E--0---1----3-------------------------------------------------------

This post was edited by drewtx84 on Jul 13 2008 03:03pm
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Code
e|-----------------------------|
B|-----------------------------|
G|-----------------------------|
D|-----------------------------|
A|-----------------------------|
E|0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-|


Code in order:

E, F, F#, G, G#, A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E

OR

E, F, Gb, G, Ab, A, Bb, B, C, Db, D, Eb, E

OR

Mi, Fa, Fa#, Sol, Sol#, La, La#, Si, Do, Do#, Ré, Ré#, Mi

('#' is pronounced 'sharp'; 'b' is pronounced 'flat')

E = Mi
F = Fa
G = Sol
A = La
B = Si
C = Do
D = Ré

Tones
¯¯¯¯¯
Half Tone: One fret higher than a fret.
Whole Tone: Two frets higher than a fret.

This is a half tone:

Code
e|----|
B|----|
G|----|
D|----|
A|----|
E|2-3-|



This is a whole tone:

Code
e|----|
B|----|
G|----|
D|----|
A|----|
E|2-4-|

Scales
¯¯¯¯¯¯
MAJOR

Code:

(whole tone)
(whole tone)
(half tone)
(whole tone)
(whole tone)
(whole tone)
(half tone)

C Major Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|----------2-4-5-|
D|----2-3-5-------|
A|3-5-------------|
E|----------------|


A Major Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|------------1-2-|
D|------0-2-4-----|
A|0-2-4-----------|
E|----------------|


D Major Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|------------2-3-|
G|------0-2-4-----|
D|0-2-4-----------|
A|----------------|
E|----------------|

F Major Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|----------------|
D|----------0-2-3-|
A|----0-1-3-------|
E|1-3-------------|


Bb/A# Major Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|----------0-2-3-|
D|----0-1-3-------|
A|1-3-------------|
E|----------------|


MINOR

Code:

(whole tone)
(half tone)
(whole tone)
(whole tone)
(half tone)
(whole tone)
(whole tone)

A Minor Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|------------0-2-|
D|------0-2-3-----|
A|0-2-3-----------|
E|----------------|


C Minor Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|--------------1-|
G|--------0-1-3---|
D|--0-1-3---------|
A|3---------------|
E|----------------|


B Minor Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|----------0-2-4-|
D|----0-2-4-------|
A|2-4-------------|
E|----------------|


E Minor Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|----------------|
D|------------0-2-|
A|------0-2-3-----|
E|0-2-3-----------|

Gb/F# Minor Scale

Code
e|----------------|
B|----------------|
G|----------------|
D|----------0-2-4-|
A|----0-2-4-------|
E|2-4-------------|



Hope that helps a bit! Did them myself tongue.gif:P
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Jul 13 2008 07:56pm
thnx for information but....



how come there's not b# between b and c notes?

oh and how about the notes on the other strings, not just on the low e.
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Jul 13 2008 09:59pm
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thnx for information but....



how come there's not b# between b and c notes?

oh and how about the notes on the other strings, not just on the low e.


There's no b#, it's like that...


And just make them out yourself, if the 5th string starts at A, then the 1st fret would be A#, 2nd fret B, 3rd fret C, etc...

Do the same for the others.
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Jul 14 2008 08:27am
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thnx for information but....



how come there's not b# between b and c notes?

oh and how about the notes on the other strings, not just on the low e.


b# is the note you call c
and e# is f

This is because when you go through the notes of the C major scale (ie the white notes on a piano) the half step's in the scale are between and e -> f and b -> c, therefore, to keep the C Major notes all natural notes as opposed to #'s or b's, there is no # or b between them.


Btw that scale you posted in first post is C Major, except that you're starting off with/emphasising the E on the 6th string so you would probably call it E Phrygian.

C Major is good enough for now though, you probably don't need to get into modes just yet.

This post was edited by JoShoeWah on Jul 14 2008 08:34am
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This is because when you go through the notes of the C major scale (ie the white notes on a piano) the half step's in the scale are between and e -> f and b -> c, therefore, to keep the C Major notes all natural notes as opposed to #'s or b's, there is no # or b between them.



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Jul 14 2008 06:15pm
Quote (drewtx84 @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008, 13:04)
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what he means is that on a C Major Scale you have the notes : C D E F G A B C
now in music, there are half step major scale notes, rather than whole step.

E to F is only half a step and same wth B to C

a half step is the most basic differnce between 2 notes

G to G# is only half, however G to A is a whole

its just on e to f and b to c, they are half

make sense?

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Jul 15 2008 05:12am
Yeah sorry if i confused you at all, Toothfairy's explanation is good.

If you ever have a look at a piano and the way the keys are laid out, you'll notice that there are some white keys with no black keys between them.

All of the white keys on a piano are the notes

C D E F G A B, just like Toothfairy said in the previous post, these notes are the C Major scale.....any note between these notes is considered a sharp or flat, and those are the black keys on a piano.

Inbetween the B note and the C note, there is no black key because there is only a half step (1 fret on a guitar) between these two notes...the same deal with inbetween the E note and F note.

It is these half step's (rather than a full step) which make the Major scale sound the way it does, if it were just all whole steps (2 frets on a guitar) it would sound totally different and be an entirely different scale.


So that's the reason that there is no # or b between B and C..........or between E and F.

If you need help with anything in this explanation just let me know, i know how difficult it can be understanding a concept the first time round smile.gif
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Quote (JoShoeWah @ Tue, Jul 15 2008, 11:12am)
Yeah sorry if i confused you at all, Toothfairy's explanation is good.

If you ever have a look at a piano and the way the keys are laid out, you'll notice that there are some white keys with no black keys between them.

All of the white keys on a piano are the notes

C D E F G A B, just like Toothfairy said in the previous post, these notes are the C Major scale.....any note between these notes is considered a sharp or flat, and those are the black keys on a piano.

Inbetween the B note and the C note, there is no black key because there is only a half step (1 fret on a guitar) between these two notes...the same deal with inbetween the E note and F note.

It is these half step's (rather than a full step) which make the Major scale sound the way it does, if it were just all whole steps (2 frets on a guitar) it would sound totally different and be an entirely different scale.


So that's the reason that there is no # or b between B and C..........or between E and F.

If you need help with anything in this explanation just let me know, i know how difficult it can be understanding a concept the first time round smile.gif



thnx...if u have nemore stuff to tell , do tell.
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