The Bible says that if you have not accepted Jesus as your saviour, you are going to hell. Period. I don't need to go to the link because i'm 100% sure the Bible does not even say a word about purgatory. Who prays for the dead, lol? I pray for their family, but praying for a dead person is absolutely pointless.

I am older than you, maybe once you're matured a little, and have had more time to read the Bible, you'll realize why it's a fraud.
*sigh*, do you really not know what the phrase "holier-than-thou" means...
I was referring to the message behind the Bible. I've read it "religiously" if you will, and you know bits and pieces, give or take. I know more about what it says, yet I'm the one going to hell...



lol dude are you scared of going to the link because you'll be proven wrong? Just open up your Bible and start reading from the beginning, eventually you'll find the quotes in that link and realize the Bible DOES in fact mention purgatory. If you're so sure that it doesn't, why are you scared to open the link and check your Bible yourself?

why are you even saying "ull realize why its fraud"
its not fraud to me
its 100% true
no point in even saying that rofl

another thread, another debate xD

Because i've read the entire thing, and I'm not stupid. Give me a Bible reference from the link. I know there isn't one there.

Because you haven't read it thoroughly.
Read the damn book and then you're opinion on it will matter.



2 Maccabees 12:39-45
1 Corinthians 3:15
Revelation 21:27
Psalm 141:8; Daniel 12:10; Micah 7:9; Zechariah 9:11; Matthew 5:26; Matthew 12:32 & 36; Luke 12:47-48; Philippians 2:10; Hebrews 12:22b; James 3:1; 1 Peter 3:19; 1 Peter 4:18; 1 Peter 1:7; and Jude 23
Genesis 50:10; Numbers 20:29; Deuteronomy 34:8; 2 Maccabees 12:44-45; 1 Corinthians 15:29; 2 Timothy 1:16-18; 2 Timothy 4:19

It appears you are stupid then. Either that or just willfully ignorant on the matter. (considering you refuse to even open the link)
I got all that from the link, why are you so against clicking on the damn link, rofl? Go look up all those passages in your little idiot-book.

PS: I'm not trying to insult u or anything, so don't take the stupid thing personally, and I only said it because purgatory IS, in fact in the bible

This post was edited by PSPZorZ on Jul 12 2009 11:08pm

I'll check the verses in a second.
But the first problem I see is that Maccabees is not a book in the Bible. The Catholics wrote it and added it.

Edit: those verses don't make any sense lol.

1 Corinthians 3:15: 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
Revelation 21:17: 17He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits[a] thick,[b] by man's measurement, which the angel was using.
Psalm 141:8: 8 But my eyes are fixed on you, O Sovereign LORD;
in you I take refuge—do not give me over to death.

I'm not even going to bother looking up the rest. These dont have a single thing to do with purgatory. Lol?

This post was edited by x]FoRsaKeN[x on Jul 12 2009 11:25pm

The Catholics did not write it, they were verses of uncertain authenticity (just like every other story in the Bible) which some sects decided didn't make the cut into the Bible. However, many sects follow these verses, not just Catholics. One prime example being Protestants.

Protesants do not follow that, it is absolutely ONLY Catholics, and I will stand by this 100%. I am a protestant. And every single 'Christian that isn't a Catholic' ('which doesn't make sense anyway') is a protestant. (Maybe not 100%, but 99%+). So that is definately false.

Edit: I actually thought I was debating with someone who knew a little bit about the subject. But it seems you just make stuff up, or just believe random links that you google on the arguements that are brought up. You are bringing absolutely no credibility to anything you are saying, and are making things up.

This post was edited by x]FoRsaKeN[x on Jul 12 2009 11:37pm

Protestants aren't a prime example, lol, they are everyone except Catholics, and there are certainly groups that don't accept Maccabees - I've never even heard of it until just now.