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LOL! Interwebz is srs buiznezz. 'Gtfo'.
I'm just saying that if my opinion on a tuning is voided because a guitarist from a band
I don't like uses the tuning, then I don't know what there is left to say. And I hate Led Zep
cause I don't like their music, but as a musician, I do appreciate their work and what
they did for music. Just not my cup of tea. You're reading into it too much, and most of all
my reply wasn't directed towards you. So your reply was unneeded.
And the holy grail comment was an exaggeration, if you couldn't notice that... then I have no hope left
in this discussion. AND I was never defending Slipknot, their music is shit, hence the comparison. And if
mentioning a tuning that has not come up in this conversation means my argument is void then you're buddy should
have never posted the C open tuning in the first place. As you can see, the topic of the thread is regarding the Dadgad
tuning; Not open C.
All I'm saying is this argument is retarded, your buddy should have put his glasses on and maybe thought about what I had
posted before he replied. All I posted was my opinion, nothing more nothing less and you were both quick to hold hands and
assume I thought the tuning in general was just useless. I don't listen to nor like much of Jimmy Page's work, but I appreciate
what he's done and what his music has done in regards to influence in music. But it doesn't mean I have to like or support the
tunings he uses. If me kidding around and calling him a little bitch, and posting MY opinion like everyone before me has done makes
me immature, then immature I 'rightfully' am.
But him calling me an idiot, on the other hand for having an opinion is okay.
I'll never understand the bromance on these forums.
But, that's not what you said. You said that he was making the tuning out to be 'The Holy Grail' of tunings. Which is completely false. I don't really care if the statement was directed at me, I just point out flaws in people's arguments. And your argument, my fine sir, is full of flaws, I'm afraid.
Yes, the Holy Grail comment
was an absurd exaggeration. You realize that his assertion that the tuning is useful, is a lot harder to argue against than if he had said something along the lines of "The tuning is the best tuning ever created". So instead of arguing his point that the tuning is useful, you argue the point that it's the holy grail of tuning. Just a strawman argument, which doesn't belong in intelligent discussions.
Hmmm bro, the difference between his tuning and your tuning is, he simply mentioned the C tuning in friendly conversation. Then he defended it when people criticized it. Whereas
you are usingthe tuning in your argument. It simply does not belong in the argument, it is completely irrelevant. It's like someone walking into a room and saying
"I think oranges are good", and you reply with
"WHAT? ORANGES ARE NOT THE BEST FRUIT! APPLES ARE MUCH BETTER!..."and then later saying
"WHAT? DO YOU THINK JUST BECAUSE ADAM SANDLER EATS PEARS THEY ARE BETTER THAN APPLES?", a completely irrelevant argument that in no way applies to the argument against oranges. But you think it applies to the argument because you believe it goes along with your argument that "apples are the best fruit". And you think that proving "apples are the best fruit" will help you end up proving that oranges are NOT the best fruit, a statement which was never asserted to begin with.
Let me make it more clear, using the real examples:
He stated:
I believe that because Led Zeppelin made
use of the tuning, the tuning is useful.
Your exaggeration of his statement:
I believe that because Led Zeppelin used the tuning, it is 'The Holy Grail of Tunings'.
You stated:
Just because Slipknot uses Drop A/B/etc tunings, does that make their music good?
Which is a fallacy, because you think that his statement that Led Zeppelin using the tuning being evidence that the tuning is useful, is somehow related to your statement that Slipknot using a different tuning means that Slipknot is good.
Thank you for finally admitting you were immature by calling him a "little bitch". I don't really see why you were so afraid to admit it... We're all immature at times. And for the record, you were not immature for stating your opinion, you were immature for the manner in which you did it.
I never said he was right to call you any names, but the fact of the matter is, YOU started it. So he was just as immature to sink to your level and call names, but I don't really feel sorry for you because you're just getting a taste of your own medicine. Like I said, we're
ALL immature at times.
This post was edited by PSPZorZ on Oct 9 2009 09:05am