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Jul 1 2010 04:34pm
Quote (ZoSo @ Jul 1 2010 06:31pm)
You can't seriously be that small-minded.  Which part of it is wrong, and why?


There's no right and wrong in music except for the obvious (like how can you honestly love music AND Justin Bieber?) but I do agree with chronowarp to some extent. JP is definitely overestimated by most because he plays fast. But that doesn't make him the most accurate or melodic guitarist out there.
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Jul 1 2010 04:36pm
Quote (ZoSo @ Jul 1 2010 10:31pm)
You can't seriously be that small-minded.  Which part of it is wrong, and why?


Small minded is thinking that because you can believe something it automatically is valid, or as valid as well-supported views & conclusions.

Quote (JesperIF @ Jul 1 2010 10:34pm)
There's no right and wrong in music except for the obvious (like how can you honestly love music AND Justin Bieber?) but I do agree with chronowarp to some extent. JP is definitely overestimated by most because he plays fast. But that doesn't make him the most accurate or melodic guitarist out there.


I love JB

This post was edited by chronowarp on Jul 1 2010 04:37pm
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Jul 1 2010 04:54pm
Quote (chronowarp @ Jul 1 2010 05:52pm)
If any musical aspect is confined to playing 3 note per string scale patterns really fast.  Unfortunately, that's not musical and has no musical worth.  Being able to play fast or wank on the guitar doesn't make you a good guitar player, and it REALLY doesn't make you a good musician.


You surely know fucking nothing about the guitar players I listed then.

Might wanna stop trolling around and stop being so close-minded.

*Sigh* You're getting seriously pathetic man.

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Jul 1 2010 05:00pm
Quote (Darkshade @ Jul 1 2010 10:54pm)
You surely know fucking nothing about the guitar players I listed then.

Might wanna stop trolling around and stop being so close-minded.

*Sigh* You're getting seriously pathetic man.

No, I know virtually everything about them...have their entire discographies...listened to them extensively, discussed them extensively...

Ya, sorry dude.
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Jul 1 2010 05:20pm
Quote (chronowarp @ Jul 1 2010 06:36pm)
Small minded is thinking that because you can believe something it automatically is valid, or as valid as well-supported views & conclusions.

I know that, which is why I suggested that you're small-minded.

LOL I'm really amused that you thought you were correcting me with this post.

This post was edited by ZoSo on Jul 1 2010 05:25pm
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Jul 1 2010 05:42pm
Quote (chronowarp @ Jul 1 2010 07:00pm)
No, I know virtually everything about them...have their entire discographies...listened to them extensively, discussed them extensively...

Ya, sorry dude.


Don't worry, atleast you used to be not bad at trolling.

Every good thing has an end though, don't they?
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Jul 1 2010 06:45pm
I'm really sorry I brought this up. :(
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Jul 1 2010 07:01pm
Don't be. I think it's important that we all try to understand the sad, boring little world chronowarp lives in so we can be sure not to end up like him.
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Jul 1 2010 09:19pm
Quote (ZoSo @ Jul 1 2010 11:20pm)
I know that, which is why I suggested that you're small-minded.

LOL I'm really amused that you thought you were correcting me with this post.


But...you're the one arguing from that position, not me. Just because you can have an opinion does not make it valid or even worth entertaining. If you think guitar wankers exemplify "good musicians" then you fall into the camp of "shitty opinions", and try to argue from a position of "everything is subjective" in an attempt to keep your shitty views intact.
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Jul 1 2010 09:22pm
Quote (ZoSo @ Jul 2 2010 01:01am)
Don't be.  I think it's important that we all try to understand the sad, boring little world chronowarp lives in so we can be sure not to end up like him.


That's almost as delusional as Darkshade. I grew up listening to guitarcentric music, and used to like it. That was before my musical tastes matured, and I realized it was, for the most part, musically inept wanking. There are gems in the fields of shit, but generally it's just bad news. I'm 22, any guitarist from my generation has grown up on the internet. Growing up on the internet ensures that you will be exposed to: Paul Gilbert, Joe Satriani, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, Chris Broderick, Rusty Cooley, Marty Friedman, Steve Morse, Jason Becker, John Petrucci, Marc Sfogli, Guthrie Govan, Shawn Lane, etc. I know who all of these guitarists are, I've heard everything they've done & enjoyed some of their music in the past - and a few of them still.

However, as you actually develop an ear for music and what makes good music it becomes clear that a vast majority of guitar centric 'music' is worthless trash. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is.
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