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Jul 26 2011 07:45am
One more with him. Go to 5:15:



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Jul 26 2011 08:16am
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One more with him. Go to 5:15:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWsaSphPvXM


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Jul 26 2011 02:15pm
both videos... were awful... i dont get it :S.
that wasnt music to me.
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Jul 26 2011 02:53pm
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both videos... were awful... i dont get it :S.
that wasnt music to me.


It's not music, it's crap.
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Jul 26 2011 11:53pm
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LOLOLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOLOLLL OMFG IT HURTS IM DYING AAHAHA


Quote (DeathDeception @ Jul 26 2011 03:15pm)
both videos... were awful... i dont get it :S.
that wasnt music to me.


Quote (bob(Cs2) @ Jul 26 2011 03:53pm)
It's not music, it's crap.



This guy tip toes around brilliance and stupidity. I haven't figured out if I think it's any good or not. In any case, it's a different way of looking at the guitar. Watch the hosts reaction in that second clip. He's actually impressed at 5:35 and 5:43, even though he doesn't like it. I think I am too.

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Jul 27 2011 05:15am
I cannot stand music that doesn't fit. I don't like jazz, and I hate random notes with no melody. If there's no melody, i don't listen to it.
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Jul 27 2011 12:51pm
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I cannot stand music that doesn't fit. I don't like jazz, and I hate random notes with no melody. If there's no melody, i don't listen to it.

The great majority of improvising method stems from jazz. Hell, soloing as we know it comes from jazz. Jazz is where the world's most brilliant improvisers go to improvise; there simply doesn't exist the harmonic framework in (most) other music to support such open-ended and long form improvisation. At an academic level, improvisation is taught basically exclusively within the context of jazz because producing a, say, 96-bar solo over a Byrd blues that is interesting and pertinent for the entire duration is still substantially more difficult to produce than a 16-bar solo over basically any rock lexicon changes. More progressive music is a somewhat different animal but the ultimate tenant of a soloist not being expected to improvise for minutes at a time is the same.

I'm not saying you have to like jazz, as a great many people don't and they do fine. But saying jazz is "random notes with no melody" is a strange complaint since the average jazz musician has done a lot more to think about the individual notes that they're picking than the average rock musician has. You just have to train your ear to hear it.
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Jul 27 2011 02:39pm
Quote (Superchum @ Jul 27 2011 01:53am)
This guy tip toes around brilliance and stupidity. I haven't figured out if I think it's any good or not. In any case, it's a different way of looking at the guitar. Watch the hosts reaction in that second clip. He's actually impressed at 5:35 and 5:43, even though he doesn't like it. I think I am too.


if you thought that was brilliant you shud have seen me on my first day with the guitar with a broken high e string lol

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The great majority of improvising method stems from jazz. Hell, soloing as we know it comes from jazz. Jazz is where the world's most brilliant improvisers go to improvise; there simply doesn't exist the harmonic framework in (most) other music to support such open-ended and long form improvisation. At an academic level, improvisation is taught basically exclusively within the context of jazz because producing a, say, 96-bar solo over a Byrd blues that is interesting and pertinent for the entire duration is still substantially more difficult to produce than a 16-bar solo over basically any rock lexicon changes. More progressive music is a somewhat different animal but the ultimate tenant of a soloist not being expected to improvise for minutes at a time is the same.

I'm not saying you have to like jazz, as a great many people don't and they do fine. But saying jazz is "random notes with no melody" is a strange complaint since the average jazz musician has done a lot more to think about the individual notes that they're picking than the average rock musician has. You just have to train your ear to hear it.


i understand his complaint though, its like listening to impromptu poetry with interpretive dance.. sometimes it works othertimes meh i like some jazz tho
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The great majority of improvising method stems from jazz. Hell, soloing as we know it comes from jazz. Jazz is where the world's most brilliant improvisers go to improvise; there simply doesn't exist the harmonic framework in (most) other music to support such open-ended and long form improvisation. At an academic level, improvisation is taught basically exclusively within the context of jazz because producing a, say, 96-bar solo over a Byrd blues that is interesting and pertinent for the entire duration is still substantially more difficult to produce than a 16-bar solo over basically any rock lexicon changes. More progressive music is a somewhat different animal but the ultimate tenant of a soloist not being expected to improvise for minutes at a time is the same.

I'm not saying you have to like jazz, as a great many people don't and they do fine. But saying jazz is "random notes with no melody" is a strange complaint since the average jazz musician has done a lot more to think about the individual notes that they're picking than the average rock musician has. You just have to train your ear to hear it.


Yes, Jazz is important - but it will NEVER sound like anything but broken glass to my ears. If there's no melody, i'm not interested and Jazz is NOT built on Melody.
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Jul 27 2011 05:49pm
[QUOTE=bob(Cs2),Jul 27 2011 06:32pm]Yes, Jazz is important - but it will NEVER sound like anything but broken glass to my ears. If there's no melody, i'm not interested and Jazz is NOT built on Melody.[/QUOTE



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