Being the drummer, i like to get 2-3 different types of the song down.

I usually take 8 takes in total; get 2 or three different versions.
Bass player takes 2 takes most.
guitars have to deal with doubling; the amount of takes they take pertains to the parts they have to play

why am i explaining this to you? You made this bullshit assumption based on the style of music we play.

Why yes it does. You've never seen a terrible guitarist trying to play super fast? They try to look cool and go fast, but ignore tone completely, and end up sounding like sh*t. Lawl. It was just backing up my argument to blackarrow. There are many facets to good guitar playing, speed, tone, accuracy are all factors.

Cool story, bros

Tone has NOTHING to do with the playing of the musician.

Tone comes from the Guitar and Amp and everything that goes with that.

Stop.

that i have to respectfully disagree with,

tone also comes from the fingers - how well you fret, vibrato, slides, etc

i know what psp is trying to say when he says a lot of musicians these days play fast and have terrible tone, i cant argue with that. but i think thats coming more from a non professional point (as in musicians who dont play professionally although occasionaly a few slide through)

This post was edited by Blackarrowx on Feb 22 2010 08:30pm

Meh, a little bit..
I said this taking into account that most guitarists know how to fret properly.
slides goes along with fretting.

I made the assumption based on the quality of the music, not the style of music, that you guys are bad musicians. That is not a ridiculous assumption. I used evidence to reach my conclusion. lawl



LOL. Okay, I really know that you know nothing about music now. You don't even know what tone is. Ask any good musician on this forum, and he will say that tone is a combination of the player and the combined effects. How hard you strum the strings, how hard you fret the instrument, how accurate you are in placing your finger on the fret, etc. (For your case how hard you hit the drums, where you hit the drum, etc) These all contribute to a musician's tone.

Oh, and we all come from different backgrounds so this argument is pointless in a way....

from what i see, PSP is more into acoustic/folk music

Corsino, you dont even play guitar lol...

and I am more into progressive music and style of playing

our arguments will have no end!

This post was edited by Blackarrowx on Feb 22 2010 08:32pm

I do so play guitar:D
I play drums in the band.

I agree, we enjoy different styles of music. (But don't think I'm only into folk/acoustic, that's just a small segment of what I like).
But I wasn't critiquing the stylistic choices of his music, but the overall quality of the music. In other words, I'm not bashing the music due to genre.