Ohhhhhhhh I see what you mean - yeah i agree, £20/€25 piece of wood with strings is not gonna help him learn.

http://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fender-Special-Amplifier-Sunburst/dp/B001R2I12Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1353356939&sr=1-1&keywords=squier

ok so basically this is what u guys are talking about? and just out of curiosity what is the difference between this and the one in the op

All the entry levels are basically the same, but the one you have found now is ideal. Look to get him a beginners book, ideally a grade 1 book because it covers playing notes and chords. Have you looked at acoustic?

omg .. no amazon dude ... http://www.americanmusical.com/ <--- much better equpiment ... dont torture the kid ... get a esp mp-50 best beginner guitar ever .. nice solid guitar low action ( jumbo frets make it easier to play for beginners)

insaneguitar.com has every scale and master class you could ever want to learn ( joel wanasek is a great family friend .. man is monster on guitars )

whats the difference between

http://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fender-Dreaming-Start-Playing/dp/B001R2FZ8M/ref=sr_1_8?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1353711762&sr=1-8&keywords=squier

http://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fender-Special-Amplifier-Sunburst/dp/B001R2I12Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1353711762&sr=1-1&keywords=squier

the sunburst one is way cheaper so im confused as to of why

and @ the guy above me im guessing u meant esp mh-50 that is way out of my price range..

toolate to edit but i realize they're both the same price, lol..so ignore that above post

is there a waay i could just buy the guitar only

http://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fender-BulletStrat-Brown-Sunburst/dp/B003AQ1PZU/ref=sr_1_20?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1353725457&sr=1-20&keywords=squier

and he would like use headphones to listen as he plays or is an amp still needed?

This post was edited by oRAnGeInAbOx on Nov 23 2012 08:55pm

The amp is needed. Get an acoustic if you don't need an amp, but you must have an amp with electric. It's not necessary after a few years of playing, but it's absolutely necessary to begin with.