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Jun 18 2011 04:10am


This is me right now in this talk of theory lol.
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Jun 18 2011 04:20am
Quote (bob(Cs2) @ Jun 18 2011 06:40am)
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This is me right now in this talk of theory lol.


I know lots about theory but not as a good a musician as my brother who knows nothing about theory :(
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Jun 18 2011 04:32am
I've played for over 11 years and still know relatively dick all about any theory really. It's especially difficult as I know that for me to progress now as a guitarist, I need to learn Modes. But reading the info just confuses me and leaves me in o.O face
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Jun 18 2011 04:39am
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I've played for over 11 years and still know relatively dick all about any theory really. It's especially difficult as I know that for me to progress now as a guitarist, I need to learn Modes. But reading the info just confuses me and leaves me in o.O face


In theory modes are good. Pick the g major scale and start at A on 5th fret and only play notes from g. That would be a different scale

You need to learn a new song ;)
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Jun 18 2011 04:56am
I can learn 90% of a song in about 3 minutes usually. Any longer is because of trickyness, or strumming patterns, or general tidying up - but for instance I learned 2 full Bullet songs in 10 minutes the other day. GF went to make toast, came back, and I played her 2 new songs lol.

But as far as ADVANCING in guitar -I need modes. Going back to a previous topic I made about same-old-soloing, I need Modes to mix up my pentatonic solo's coz really - thats all I know
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Jun 18 2011 05:17am
pentatonic is a great start to guitar. Pick another scale...any scale and only play notes from that scale for a day.
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Jun 18 2011 06:10am
Quote (Baloid @ 18 Jun 2011 11:17)
pentatonic is a great start to guitar.  Pick another scale...any scale and only play notes from that scale for a day.


Exactly what i'm saying lol - just worded differently.
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Jun 18 2011 10:30am
Quote (CrimsonOdin @ Jun 18 2011 02:31am)
hmmm does it mean i could use every key within this diminished 'shape'.
say i wanted to do something like this,

A minor, C# minor , E minor , A major

guess what im trying to ask is, can i borrow chords/modes from the 'diminish shape'  (in this case, it will be C , E , Ab major )


Baloid's right. Music theory simply expands your knowledge, it won't give you any more options. So in short, yes you can use whatever chord from whatever scale you want whenever you want, just like Baloid said. Just because you know the theory behind it, doesn't make it sound any better or worse.

As a direct answer to your question A-, C#-, E-, A+. If you change your perception as you move through the progression, you can change keys without any tricks, just by looking at the chord your playing differently. For example:

Lets say you're in the Key of C. You move to the second chord of the C major scale, D minor. Now you're playing the 2 chord right? Well... isn't D- also the 6 chord in F? Or the 3 chord in Bb, furthermore the 5 chord in G minor! Your first chord was C and you were thinking in the key of C and thought, "I want to go to the 2 chord." So you went to the D minor. But then once you got there you said, "I would like to revolve this chord cause it sounds sad but instead of resolving to the key of C, D- is the 3 chord, (the Mediant) of Bb. So I'll play Bb for a resolution." What do you know it works. Personally I think that was too much thinking for a 3 chord progression, especially had I just thought about being in the Key of F the whole time, I would have played the 5, 6, 4 chords of F and never once would have thought about changing keys! In any case, that's the idea behind borrowing chords from other keys. It becomes second nature in time.
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Jun 18 2011 11:43am
thank you for the answer(s)
starting to become clear, :cheers:

think i'll have to pick that book up, nothing worst then trying to figure things out in the dark :P

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Quote (CrimsonOdin @ 16 Jun 2011 13:49)
say im playing a 'riff' in A minor, then i play a C# minor followed by an A major, what are the relationship between A and C#
since A minor hasnt got a C# in it, why does it sound right?

what im trying to say is why does going from A minor to C# major work when they're in a different key.


yeah dood
they are called borrowed chords

u can borrow any chord from anywhere cause there are no "rules" and u can basicly make any chord and name it like
for example

Gsus2#5

theory is great too learn though becuase it teaches u what sounds pleasing to the ears -_-

like a 1-4-5 and 2-5-1 progression
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