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Jun 16 2011 11:49am
say im playing a 'riff' in A minor, then i play a C# minor followed by an A major, what are the relationship between A and C#
since A minor hasnt got a C# in it, why does it sound right?

what im trying to say is why does going from A minor to C# major work when they're in a different key.
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Jun 16 2011 12:25pm
it has to do with music theory.

I don't know too much about music theory. But what I do know is the 1-4-5 theory

If A is 1 that means B is 2, C is 3, D is 4, and E is 5

the numbers 1,4, and 5 will make a good sound guarenteed because of this sort of math equation music theory stuff.

Just like G-C-D sounds good together. In the progession G-C-D, G is 1, C, is 4, and D is 5.

I don't know too much about music theory, only the basics.
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Jun 16 2011 01:16pm
thing is C# doesnt belong in an A minor scale

im talking about a chord progression going from A minor to C# minor to A major
so imagine playing a few bars of A minor then jump into a C# minor to A major, works wonderfully when u start soloing over the C# , A major

any know why these 2 notes move so smoothy over?
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Jun 16 2011 01:20pm
first of all theory is a set of guidelines not rules. you can bend them

and second of all, i can't make that sound good <_<
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Jun 16 2011 01:34pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Jun 16 2011 07:20pm)
first of all theory is a set of guidelines not rules. you can bend them

and second of all, i can't make that sound good <_<


but still, theory should be able to explain it :P
think of the A minor leading u to the solo, i guess they call it the bridge? ( in a song ) then bam! C# minor and A major, sounds cooool :o
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Jun 17 2011 11:15am
maybe its a blues thing or special scale, i think when its raised a 1/2 a step its called augmented or something

C its the 3rd step of the A minor scale, Cmajor and aminor are parallel, and when u raise the 3rd step by 1/2 its an augmented perfect or harmonic diatonic or something. Im not great w/ the theory stuff yet, as i havnt even got to soloing but im sure theres a reason, it could be as simple as ur guitar is out of tune, or you need to clean out your ears :P



This post was edited by blunderwonder2 on Jun 17 2011 11:20am
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Jun 17 2011 01:03pm
sharping the c to c# makes a major third ( A major third ) but what i wanna know is why you can change keys from A minor to C# Minor
god damn im just confused lol.

c'mon there must be someone who can answer this!
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Jun 17 2011 05:50pm
These are diminished principles.

A minor has the same key signature as C, (You mentioned this already.) Okay, then you go to C# minor and say, "Why does that work?" Well, what's the relative major to C#-? This will help answer your question. I wont get into it in full but here's a little theory chart for you.

C = A minor
E = C# minor
Ab = F minor

Why the keys E major and Ab major? E is a major third above C. Ab is a major third above E. Now figure out the major third above Ab and it should all make sense. You can also pick up this:



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Jun 18 2011 01:31am
hmmm does it mean i could use every key within this diminished 'shape'.
say i wanted to do something like this,

A minor, C# minor , E minor , A major

guess what im trying to ask is, can i borrow chords/modes from the 'diminish shape' (in this case, it will be C , E , Ab major )

This post was edited by CrimsonOdin on Jun 18 2011 01:35am
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Quote (CrimsonOdin @ Jun 18 2011 04:01am)
hmmm does it mean i could use every key within this diminished 'shape'.
say i wanted to do something like this,

A minor, C# minor , E minor , A major

guess what im trying to ask is, can i borrow chords/modes from the 'diminish shape'  (in this case, it will be C , E , Ab major )


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