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Oct 4 2011 03:58pm
Quote (LordNazgul @ Oct 4 2011 10:26am)
Sometimes you get what i like to call the "Goodwill Metalheads"

A Goodwill Metal Head: A metal lover who is so poor he cannot afford to buy new music... so he listens to ONLY underground metal bands.. Any band that is "known" is instantly bad, because he cannot afford to buy their new c-d now that it is released to the public and no longer 1$ at their underground garage show. He will even LOVE a band ... untill they get "popular", he will then claim they are bad.

Goodwill Metal Head: "Have u guys listened to this bad amon amoth!?"
Goodwill Metal Head2: "Eew no man, they are fucking sell outs! they sell c-ds for like real $!"


Wow, that's totally me. Fuck da sellouts
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Oct 5 2011 10:49am
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Hey, what are you trying to pull here?


Trollin' ofc.
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Oct 5 2011 10:55am

Quote (LordNazgul @ Oct 4 2011 07:26am)
Sometimes you get what i like to call the "Goodwill Metalheads"

A Goodwill Metal Head: A metal lover who is so poor he cannot afford to buy new music... so he listens to ONLY underground metal bands.. Any band that is "known" is instantly bad, because he cannot afford to buy their new c-d now that it is released to the public and no longer 1$ at their underground garage show. He will even LOVE a band ... untill they get "popular", he will then claim they are bad.

Goodwill Metal Head: "Have u guys listened to this bad amon amoth!?"
Goodwill Metal Head2: "Eew no man, they are fucking sell outs! they sell c-ds for like real $!"



My two most listened to artists are The Black Dahlia Murder and 3 Inches of Blood tho...
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Oct 6 2011 02:38am
Quote (LordNazgul @ Sep 30 2011 06:17am)
You need to listen to disturbed and killswitch , it is apparent that you are not musical. If you knew music, been a member of a band you would know the differnce is far from minimal.

Time and scientific research has told us that all people hear sounds differently ... so you may be hearing something wayyyyyyy different from what I hear, that is fine.

But the way I hear it , and the majority of the world hears it , it is not the same.

When you play a song, instrimental only (No lyrics) back to back, and can EASILY indentify the band , you have tried this?

Download some instrimental only versions , play them back to back,

pretend all  you want, their sounds are not the same.

Metal is metal is metal, yeah... w/e ... i've been listening to it for far longer than most of you (probably... because i've lived far longer) and I've listened to MANY bands live.

A lot of bands use similar recording devices that capture music the same, when you record to an .mp3 format for CD's , you tend to get similar music tones/quality

But when you listen to the bands live, their personality comes to life, their musical differences scream at you, and you cannot deny this, unless you don't listen to LIVE music

I enjoy educated and non trolling conversations once in a great blue moon, lets try to keep it this way


I'm not trying to be mean, but no offense, I'm part of the hardcore scene and a huge part of my life and my social outings are live shows. I doubt you have been to more shows than me. Sorry to make it a contest but you started it. you're not superior to anyone here just because you might be older...

And i am pretty instrumental. considering i play 2 instruments and what not. I understand music and having been a huge fan of nu-metal and metalcore just a few years ago, I can safely say I am very familiar with the genre and the lack of originality and uniqueness each band has. i understand the percussions most of all, and really anyone who doesn't even know the basics of a drumset could tell you that they way these "drummers" all play are very much the SAME with tiny differing qualities. the same goes for the way the guitar is played in most nu-metal bands.... killswitch engage, disturbed, five finger death punch. none of them contain an "oooooh" factor that makes someone go "oh! this is different!" unless the only thing you really listen to is: nu-metal, metalcore, rapcore and the furthest you stray from that is basic alternative rock.

it's fine that you like what you like, but to say five finger death punch or any nu-metal is unique or creative is a no-no. it's all made to sound alike, saying that one of the bands is different is an oxymoron
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Oct 6 2011 04:11am
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I'm not trying to be mean, but no offense, I'm part of the hardcore scene and a huge part of my life and my social outings are live shows. I doubt you have been to more shows than me. Sorry to make it a contest but you started it. you're not superior to anyone here just because you might be older...

And i am pretty instrumental. considering i play 2 instruments and what not. I understand music and having been a huge fan of nu-metal and metalcore just a few years ago, I can safely say I am very familiar with the genre and the lack of originality and uniqueness each band has. i understand the percussions most of all, and really anyone who doesn't even know the basics of a drumset could tell you that they way these "drummers" all play are very much the SAME with tiny differing qualities. the same goes for the way the guitar is played in most nu-metal bands.... killswitch engage, disturbed, five finger death punch. none of them contain an "oooooh" factor that makes someone go "oh! this is different!" unless the only thing you really listen to is: nu-metal, metalcore, rapcore and the furthest you stray from that is basic alternative rock.

it's fine that you like what you like, but to say five finger death punch or any nu-metal is unique or creative is a no-no. it's all made to sound alike, saying that one of the bands is different is an oxymoron


Lamb of God? - I am a drummer and I've been drumming for as long as most of you guys have been alive. I can easily see how 90% of the new bands either use mixers , electronic kits or other technology to enhance their "double bass" sound.

All I am saying is that some of you "hardcore nu-metal" haters just ignore the talent where it is due. Five Finger .. lamb of god , these bands are just great talent, expect to see great new c-d's
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Oct 6 2011 04:40am
Quote (LordNazgul @ 6 Oct 2011 12:11)
Lamb of God? - I am a drummer and I've been drumming for as long as most of you guys have been alive.




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Oct 6 2011 05:03am
Quote (Koston @ 6 Oct 2011 08:38)
I'm not trying to be mean, but no offense, I'm part of the hardcore scene and a huge part of my life and my social outings are live shows. I doubt you have been to more shows than me. Sorry to make it a contest but you started it. you're not superior to anyone here just because you might be older...

And i am pretty instrumental. considering i play 2 instruments and what not. I understand music and having been a huge fan of nu-metal and metalcore just a few years ago, I can safely say I am very familiar with the genre and the lack of originality and uniqueness each band has. i understand the percussions most of all, and really anyone who doesn't even know the basics of a drumset could tell you that they way these "drummers" all play are very much the SAME with tiny differing qualities. the same goes for the way the guitar is played in most nu-metal bands.... killswitch engage, disturbed, five finger death punch. none of them contain an "oooooh" factor that makes someone go "oh! this is different!" unless the only thing you really listen to is: nu-metal, metalcore, rapcore and the furthest you stray from that is basic alternative rock.

it's fine that you like what you like, but to say five finger death punch or any nu-metal is unique or creative is a no-no. it's all made to sound alike, saying that one of the bands is different is an oxymoron


Inclined to agree - but if you watch All That Remains live you'll change your opinion. I was amazed with just how shred heavy they are - the guitarist are rather phenominal, and the vocalist is excellent. Great screams aswell as clean vocals - one of the few singers that can replicate the recording if you know what i mean?

What 2 instruments do you play besides bass?
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Oct 6 2011 07:17am
Nu metal and hardcore both suck ass. All That Remains is TERRIBLE live. Bands like Disturbed, Killswitch Engage, and Five Finger Death Punch all suck ass. As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold and other bands of that genre are even worse. That music is so terrible and formulaic I don't understand how anyone enjoys it.
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Oct 6 2011 07:30am
Quote (Juicy_J @ 6 Oct 2011 13:17)
Nu metal and hardcore both suck ass. All That Remains is TERRIBLE live. Bands like Disturbed, Killswitch Engage, and Five Finger Death Punch all suck ass. As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold and other bands of that genre are even worse. That music is so terrible and formulaic I don't understand how anyone enjoys it.


So mad - calm down. And you may have whitnessed a bad gig from ATM, but i've seen ATM/AILD/KSE/FFDP live and have been very impressed every time. It'
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