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Jan 15 2010 12:16pm
Quote (ZeusPwnsAll @ Jan 15 2010 01:07pm)
No, you're the gay one.


Okay?
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Okay?


So You're the piece of shit, not me.
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No, you're the gay one.


Thank God he is
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So You're the piece of shit, not me.


How does it effect you?
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Quote (Ridetheinferno @ Jan 15 2010 01:20pm)
How does it effect you?


It rages him.
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How does it effect you?


A Lot actually, it's destroying everything this country has been for the past two centuries.
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Jan 15 2010 12:56pm
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A Lot actually, it's destroying everything this country has been for the past two centuries.


This country has "been" many things that current Americans aren't proud of (a proprietor of slaves for example), that has no bearing on what it SHOULD be. Is ≠ ought.

Other people being gay doesn't affect you, it's their lifestyle that they cannot control. It's no different from being a particular race in that sense. How dare you fault someone for something they have no control over, AND doesn't affect you?

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Quote (Nihlathak @ Jan 15 2010 02:56pm)
This country has "been" many things that current Americans aren't proud of (a proprietor of slaves for example), that has no bearing on what it SHOULD be. Is ≠ ought.

Other people being gay doesn't affect you, it's their lifestyle that they cannot control. It's no different from being a particular race in that sense. How dare you fault someone for something they have no control over, AND doesn't affect you?


For one, it is controllable and fixable.

Second, it does affect me. One thing that has been constant in this country, throughout Slavery and the rest, is a social norm (i.e 'The American Family'), which all these anti-social movements (not just the gay marriage & pride movements) have been destroying. It's not just that all of a sudden any moral respect this country has had has literately disappeared. There are reasons and explanations to the 'changes' society goes through.

While changes are normal, change isn't always good, and it takes work to preserve what you love. Call it homophobia if you may.
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Jan 15 2010 01:10pm
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For one, it is controllable and fixable.

Second, it does affect me. One thing that has been constant in this country, throughout Slavery and the rest, is a social norm (i.e 'The American Family'), which all these anti-social movements (not just the gay marriage & pride movements) have been destroying. It's not just that all of a sudden any moral respect this country has had has literately disappeared. There are reasons and explanations to the 'changes' society goes through.

While changes are normal, change isn't always good, and it takes work to preserve what you love. Call it homophobia if you may.


How do you know what the norm is?
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