Quote (Plebeian @ Aug 7 2012 12:38pm)

How about you don't turn on the radio at all? And some of the most influential artists used voice effects, My Bloody Valentine for example. The voice is an instrument and people are allowed to do whatever they want with it, I'm sure you don't cry when someone uses an effects pedal to give their guitar the sound they're looking for.

Quote (Furio @ Aug 7 2012 06:23pm)

I suppose you're right. Taste is subjective so there's no way of knowing whether or not a band is good. Awards like Best New Artist don't exist because "taste is subjective"..........

I'm fully entitled to my opinion I'm not sure why you feel you have any power to take that away from me. It's clear you are in fact the one who does not know what you are talking about. You don't seem to realize that elements of music are not subjective. For example, if someone has to use auto-tune because they can't hit any notes. Obviously in this case an artist who could hit those notes would be considered a better artist. There are other factors at work as well, the depth of their lyrics, whether or not they are talented with any musical instrument, whether or not there is any uniqueness to their music or voice, etc...  Modern music contains a lot of things to "aid" an artist to appear to be much better than they actually are. If you were to climb the stairs out of your mothers basement and go see some live bands you might realize this. Turn on your radio (not too loud, you don't want to wake your mother up) listen to a classic rock station, then listen to a pop station, you'll notice a major difference in music that was created prior to the modern information age and music that was created after. Not to say that ALL modern music is bad, there are of course quite a few exceptions. Most notable issues with modern music (in my opinion) is the lack of instruments, weak shallow lyrics, poor lyrical structure, and of course digitally altered voices.

Quote (AEtheric @ Aug 8 2012 05:41am)

rofl

Quote (Plebeian @ Aug 7 2012 12:46pm)

Not sure how you could find that funny, unless you think I'm talking about the band Bullet For My Valentine, which I'm not.

Quote (AEtheric @ Aug 7 2012 12:41pm)

rofl

Quote (Plebeian @ Aug 7 2012 10:38am)

How about you don't turn on the radio at all? And some of the most influential artists used voice effects, My Bloody Valentine for example. The voice is an instrument and people are allowed to do whatever they want with it, I'm sure you don't cry when someone uses an effects pedal to give their guitar the sound they're looking for.

Quote (Furio @ Aug 8 2012 05:49am)

In general I prefer acoustic guitar to electric. That being said, I wouldn't waste my time listening to it if they could play any note they wanted to and the guitar would just play a pre-programmed note... I'm not saying voice alternation necessarily ruins a song, if it is used properly. Hell, many of my favourite songs have voice alterations. It's one thing to use it as an effect and it's another to use it in every song because your music sounds terrible without it.

Quote (Plebeian @ Aug 7 2012 10:54am)

So you don't like modern pop that's great, neither do I, but you seem to think that's the only kind of music getting produced.

Quote (Grime @ Aug 7 2012 07:00pm)

Moral of the thread is play what you want to hear. Can't rely on anybody or anything, radio stations included, to play something you're cool with. They're not there to appeal to Furio@Jsp, they're there to appeal to the simple-minded public.

Quote (Furio @ Aug 8 2012 05:56am)

It's the majority of what's being produced and played.