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Apr 30 2012 08:56pm
Quote (Makemetalmusic @ Apr 30 2012 04:30pm)
Yeah the Spectralis does amazing ambient. The sine waves are very soft and when you put some reverb on it, oh man, they just drift around beautifully. The interface just kills me though, I've had mine for about 2 years now and I'm just really sick of it. There isn't any mod-matrix, everything has it's own separate little menu with routing, nothing seems to be in any kind of logical place or order. It sounds great, aside from my complaints involving the filters. I just need something more accessible. The Spectralis is an excellent and extremely powerful synthesizer, but I find myself just needing something I can work an idea out quick on.
IM's $30,000 chunk of equipment is a lexicon reverb, if I'm not mistaken. Honestly, I don't know WHAT they were thinking when they bought that. There's plenty of awesome cheap hardware reverbs, hell even plenty awesome plug ins for FREE! There's no reason to be spending that much on reverb.
The X/Y Morph pad in Alchemy is really cool, but like I said, just can't get into it's sound.
I like the 303 sound, but I don't think I'd ever buy one, just because it's been used so much. I love it's filter, and it makes some of the best acid noises, but I'd feel like my sounds would be identified with other artists, ya know? The Juno-60 does some really awesome acid noises and isn't as over-used, and it's a helluva lot cheaper than the 303. In fact, I think I may even prefer the filters of the juno to the 303.
I thought Hallucinogen was all mixed in his own studio? @_@ Either way the production is indeed superb. Not a single muddy sound in either album.

Speaking of Hallucinogen, Simon needs to make a 3rd album already...Love to hear what ideas he has for trance floating around in his head.


Yes, it was the Lexicon verb! I remember Erez saying very definitely something like "this is simply the best reverb." I don't know but if I was to spend 30k on anything in a studio I honestly might consider a nice reverb just because it's a treatment that would be used on pretty much every single track to a degree. I'll never spend 30k on a reverb myself though. :D The Juno's are great as well, they are also among some of my favorite vintage synths.

Yeah as per Hallucinogen, that's what I was getting at... I was under the impression he mixed it himself with his own gear, suggesting that it probably wasn't of the expense of something like a major studio would have but his sound still sounds incredible. Money can get you places, but really own so far. Talent will always have room in the art. I would love to hear another Hallucinogen album as well but it seems he's drifting more towards full band type situations. We'll see though!
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I'm currently fiddling with the Fab Filter plug-ins and I have to say, they're pretty fucking awesome. Good call man! They make my Spectralis sound SOOOO trippy, I'm loving it. I'm getting all these crazy formant noises. It's awesome. Many thanks.
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I'm currently fiddling with the Fab Filter plug-ins and I have to say, they're pretty fucking awesome. Good call man! They make my Spectralis sound SOOOO trippy, I'm loving it. I'm getting all these crazy formant noises. It's awesome. Many thanks.


:) Hell yeah, sounds like a ton of fun! I gotta get my hands on that FabFilter stuff, I've not actually used their stuff yet but I've been loving the SoundToys stuff. There's a whole sea full of shit plugins but there's definitely some gems out there!
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:)  Hell yeah, sounds like a ton of fun!  I gotta get my hands on that FabFilter stuff, I've not actually used their stuff yet but I've been loving the SoundToys stuff.  There's a whole sea full of shit plugins but there's definitely some gems out there!


I pm'd you something fun :wub:
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I pm'd you something fun  :wub:


:wub: I'm having SO MUCH FUN :D

Filters galore!
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New infected mushroom's album is out..
Well that's not so bad in my opinion




e/ the previous post is damn good !

This post was edited by ApocaliX on May 8 2012 06:24am
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Meh. It's nowhere near as psychedelic as the original The Messenger. You can see they tried to appeal to the older fans while still maintaining their new sound, and I give them respect for that. But fact of the matter is, it's just not as good. What's most interesting is it seems like their studio quality has gone down, which I don't understand. The production on IM albums used to be so immaculate, and yet this one is full of clumsy, muddied sounds, basses that are too bassy, midranges that collide with each other, and high details that are totally in the background and barely heard. The original had better production than this, and it was on of their earliest tracks, which is what's odd about it. The little psychedelic voices were almost completely taken out, and what you do hear of them actually sounds a lot more simple and less intense than the original.

I appreciate the effort Infected, but I just don't think you guys got it anymore :(
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmQw2SMZ544

Meh. It's nowhere near as psychedelic as the original The Messenger. You can see they tried to appeal to the older fans while still maintaining their new sound, and I give them respect for that. But fact of the matter is, it's just not as good. What's most interesting is it seems like their studio quality has gone down, which I don't understand. The production on IM albums used to be so immaculate, and yet this one is full of clumsy, muddied sounds, basses that are too bassy, midranges that collide with each other, and high details that are totally in the background and barely heard. The original had better production than this, and it was on of their earliest tracks, which is what's odd about it. The little psychedelic voices were almost completely taken out, and what you do hear of them actually sounds a lot more simple and less intense than the original.

I appreciate the effort Infected, but I just don't think you guys got it anymore :(


Whoa. This song is called the Messenger? I don't think I've ever had this track but I have one with the same opening piano riff labeled as "Shiva Space Technology" By "Shpongle - Infected Mushroom - Vibrasphere" which I'm sure it's not by all of them but I never knew what that song was, I got it off Limewire or something like 7 years ago but it's a killer tune. It's definitely a highly "shpongley" type tune also which had led me to believe perhaps it was a collab for a long time. Anyway somebody on Youtube said this:

"No, the song is "The Messenger" from the ALBUM "Shiva Space Technology" BY Shiva Shidapu, a collaboration project between Erez Eizen from Infected Mushroom and Jorg Kessler aka DJ Jörg. Some bozo on the internet re-wrote the tags and started distributing it as Shpongle and it got around with that name."

I don't know, I guess it IS Infected if they are rereleasing it. But FUCK, that song is SO GOOD. Like, REALLY good lol. One of the top best psy tunes of all time in my opinion. Really interesting to see another version but this version, while the opening was sick, it has too much electro vibe for me. The whole song was watered down and made accessible. I've noticed that about the new IM stuff, in my opinion it's too electro-ey and also from time to time very cliche dubsteppy stuff. Not to say I don't still respect their talent and their decision-making skills production wise but they lost me back around whatever was after IM the Supervisor, Viscous Delicious I think? I remember the first time hearing Becoming Insane on my iPod when I was younger and being really confused and disappointed. Oh well.

I still think they are incredible producers but perhaps they got a bit jaded by the industry. It's already happening to me. Maybe it's because I'm here in NYC but lately I've been really feeling the weight of the industry weighing heavy on the delicate flower we call "art." Art and industry always will clash if you ask me, there is no happy medium here. It's a constant awareness an artist must have and it's also a very personal thing but for me I cannot embrace an industry fixated on marketing techniques and profits, there is just no respect on either side, for the consumer OR the artist. I'm not exactly sure who they are releasing with lately, in anybody, but I found some stuff on them releasing on Resist Records with people like Fabio. Not to hate, Fabio probably makes decent tunes for his genre, I wouldn't know but I'm just saying, if you're looking for groundbreaking psy, I wouldn't look to Resist Records first.

That being said, Infected still does some of their psy stuff in their newer stuff but it's just not enough to keep me interested. But on a happy note, at least now I know who did that song and what it's called. It's a beast of a track.

This post was edited by HERETICtheory on May 8 2012 03:13pm
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