see I think that is another factor as well

most places do have "crews" but they are 99% pussies (IE: the SLC "hateedge" pussies that are the biggest jokes in the world)

the difference is in LA if you are going to rep a "krew" and wear bandanas you are going to get hit up quick by gang members and so a lot of the crews here actually pack knives and start shit a lot which makes it a hostile environment at all of our shows

think suicidal tendencies and that's pretty much how the krews still are here

This is propably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.

Seriously, get a clue.

irony

it strikes at the best times

care to explain or do you enjoy being ignorant?

im not sure if you're relating to a kid as "hardcore" because sadly the term for their lame karate is "hardcore dancing". now im only speaking for Houston, but no one does the fake fighting, swinging in the air at no one (unless they are part of that edge crew), flips, windmill, and all the other things hardcore gets stereotyped for. i went to sounds of the underground like 3-4 years ago when they one hardcore band.... This Is Hell. i havnt seen a real hardcore band on those line ups since. now if you're talking about metalcore/deathcore/whatever else gets polluted with scene kids wearing tight pants and an underoath shirt i can see your point of view exactly.

and winds of plague is not hardcore music. i agree they are trying to be a metal band judging by who they tour with.



so none of that tour had even half an original band left. does that tell you anything?



thats one of the biggest problem i have with people. in my eyes no one goes to a concert just to pick a fight. if they do, they're pussies and shouldnt even be involved with hardcore music at all.



i didnt mean to type kid.

we have one crew, but they are all douche bags so no one pays attention to them. sadly they try and represent "straight edge" for Houston, and its pathetic. but they wont show up to concerts alone because they think everyone is out to get them. to me, going alone to a show is the most fun.

i agree with your last comment lol. and personally i find that a way to make new friends.

i have two friends that go to shows. we all drive up there alone, and honestly only talk while the bands are setting up.

i know kids at shows, we shake hands and say hello but that is about it. i dont bring my girl friend because i dont want to stand next to her either watching the show or telling other dudes to stop trying to holler. basically i dont like to baby sit haha.

If Winds of Plague wanted to be just metal, they would.

honestly, before decimate the weak came out WOP shows had their fun. only about 15-20 kids would show up and no one would get pissed at each other.


i cant say nowadays. but they are not hardcore, they attempted to write that one song (track 7?) on DTW. no thanks.

Yeah I know what song you mean. It's called Reloaded or something. I really like it to be honest. It has a generic sound, but it was real entertaining to see live.