(QUOTE=GabrieLuiz,Aug 11 2014 07:47pm]u just posted my favorite song from em

(URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skpfv8QMRRg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skpfv8QMRRg(/URL](/QUOTE]

mine too.


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not really my kinda thing but i came across this and figured id post it:

Deadmau5 has a few songs on his latest album that are very industrial.

His remix of How To Destroy Angels' Ice Age for example.

Hah.

"Industrial Metal." That subgenre always makes me laugh.

I dislike using it as a descriptor, but I won't bore you with the semantics (unless someone asks.)


Getting back to it, here's a few from Sebastian Komor, former collaborator in Icon of Coil (with Andy LaPlegua, who's now running the CombiChrist show.)

song: Das Oontz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DokpdyXNME

song(s): Boom Tscheekah, Hasta Luego

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDAZr8V0gcU

i think youre not the only one ive heard that from, but idk what the big deal is. its no different than other sub genres of metal, like symphonic metal. its metal with other elements added in, in this case industrial.

and for some music...

In my opinion there is no such thing as industrial-metal. In theory or imagination its a real thing, but in application it just doesn't exist because the characteristics that define metal cant really coexist with industrial and still manage to sound like metal. To add in characteristics of metal without losing the industrial sound and feel, what you end up with is industrial or industrial-rock - which doesn't sound like metal. If you take metal and you add in industrial characteristics, you either end up metal song with lots of percussion and it still sounds like metal; or you end up with an something that no longer sounds like metal. The things that give industrial music the sound and feel it has exist in such a way that it is a dominating feature of the music and there is just no room for metal because it would change the entire sound. I hope I didn't run in too many circles but i dont know how else to explain it.

a cross-over doesnt have to sound perfectly like one or the other to be described as a cross-over. in fact, its abusrd to expect that. if it totally kept the industrial "sound and feel" then it would be industrial, not industrial-metal. if metal and rap can coexist, then metal and industrial certainly can. if you take industrial and add metal elements, you get industrial-metal, not industrial-rock. to get industrial-rock you would have to add rock elements, not metal elements. id say kmfdm is a good example of this. theyre definitely heavier on the industrial than the metal, but theyve also got some metal elements. while it does cease to be pure industrial, it CAN be accurately described as industrial-metal. you can also take metal and add in some industrial elements, such as with turmion katilot. definitely metal. definitely industrial elements. it doesnt lose its metal status by adding those in.

industrial with metal elements:



This post was edited by ReturnFormer on Sep 21 2014 03:00pm

metal with industrial elements:



This post was edited by ReturnFormer on Sep 21 2014 03:01pm

In my opinion KMFDM is industrial or industrial rock. Same with 1985-1990 Ministry, and 1990s Nine Inch Nails. Just because somebody decided to put these bands names on a Wikipedia article with the source being some random magazine articles, doesn't make them definitively metal. Its just somebody's opinion. Just like you and I have different opinions. I grew up listening to those bands and in the 90s nobody ever called them "industrial metal". That phrase didn't exist in 1986-2000. I'm not sure were people got the notion that they are suddenly metal now.


Sounds like metal to me. In any case, I hadn't intended this topic to be about anything relating to metal. Perhaps you could post this "metal with industrial elements" in a metal related topic.