If concert or radio arent that great - you're listening to the wrong stations and going to the wrong concerts.
If you wanna put people in a chalk box and then criticize them for stepping outside the lines
Then maybe you should ask yourself - what kind of chalk box have you drawn for yourself?

Yes, marketing and exposure in influental media outlets such as big radio stations. Has nothing to do with the actual sound or quality of the music.
If you think popular means better you're simply too new to this topic to have a discussion with.

The more people like it - the better it is. No question. Thats why people like it.
Everyone's OPINION about what they like is equal. People who have an inflated opinion about their opinion are just wrong.
Lets take Music out of the equation,
and name another "expression" where the more people like it - the worse it is?

Unless they are an actual failed Musicians and are harboring ill feeling toward success because no one ever liked their music.

Almost all "Music" critics are failed musicians - funny - why do you think that is?

This post was edited by card_sultan on Sep 26 2014 06:07am

the more people like it, the more popular it is

not better

you're confusing taste and opinion with quality and feeling.

If a song only appeals to small group of people , you better come out with a better song.

Like is Coke better than Pepsi? - somebody might love Pepsi but the World has chosen that Coke is clearly better.

well , what others listen to doesn't matter much to me

The world has chosen a lot of things that I will stand by as bs until the day I die.

Bieber is not a prodigy, Jesus is not watching you jack your knob, weed is not a drug, English dubs are not better than Japanese originals, the speed limit is not the speed limit plus 15, the food doesn't look like the advertisement, pugs are ugly, your shampoo will make you bald, Budweiser tastes like urine, Half Life 1 sucks, and Walter White was a douche.

Some of those are facts and some of those are opinions. But it sounds like your saying opinions can be facts, so long as enough people share the same opinion. If 1 person likes red and 3 people like green, green is better than red. Better how?

I love jazz. More people love dubstep (I assume). Dubstep is better than jazz? The two are barely comparable. You can't think of these things in terms of better or worse.



How is feeling any different than taste and opinion in this case? And what determines musical quality? Tastes, opinions, and feelings?

You sound far more opinionated than you seem to think. And like a lot of opinionated people, you're making nonsensical things up to convince people with different opinions that your opinions are the correct ones. Believe it or not, people agreeing with you doesn't automatically make you right.

I agree thats comparing two different things - there's some great jazz and theres some great dubstep.

but since you wanna go there - Jazz at its peak in say around 1957 - had 10x more fans as Dubstep ever will

and all dubstep really does is mix music into electro trash that people can dance to in a club while their drunk so they don't really care what is playing - they just wanna figure out how to hook up with.

So i'd have to pick Jazz myself - but hey if someone loves Dubstep - then they have all the right to their opinion too.

But essential if you take "opinion" out of judgement - you're left with a clearer awareness.

Lets take Arianna Grande - who i think has about as much music talent as a Tree Stump . but she clearly got a great voice , she looks pretty hot and i'm pretty sure she'll inspire a lot of wet dreams in teen boys so I'm quite sure she'll eventually make a great song. Might take 15 years - but i got hope.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Sep 26 2014 04:30pm

kendrick has a a platinum album and made more money of that alone than picaso in 50 lifetimes....your point is null and void.



he was already in the mainstream and making great money. i complain because through his art form, he complained about it and now does it. your point is null and void



metallica sounds the way it does because the 2 best songwriters of the group are gone. cliff died and mustaine is in megadeth. mustaine wrote the best metallica songs.



have you ever been to a show with a band that could sellout a large show but chooses to play something smallers and it's packed with hardcore fans? do you not know what intimacy is??? yea i've been to a large show. but the smaller ones with about 1,000 people or maybe less even are always better, and the band/artist seems like they actually care. kendrick has enough hardcore fans that he could fart on a disc and it would go platinum. this isn't about having 7 fans vs millions... what a terrible analogy you made, makes NO sense.





he has has a platinum album, you guys are aware that that means at least 1,000,000 people bout it on itunes right? doesn't count all the people that stole it... and i think the actual number is closer to 1.5 million, now its probably above 2 million.



and if said artists puts THEMSELF in the chalk box? since you are commenting in volume, is it right to assume that you have heard the lyrics to "bitch, don't kill my vibe"? the original, not the remix with the garbage jay z verse on it.



this...



or the more people like it, the more generic it is, making it less of an expression of art. you can't compare art to other things, that's why it's art. you think as a sheep.



is coffee better than tea? the u.s has chosen coffee because it was passed down from generations after they couldn't get tea from england without ridiculous taxes. stfu comparing music to things it has nothing to do with. you really haven't listened to GKMC which is why i don't know why you're making such ignorant comments on a subject that you can't speak intelligently about.

What a bafflingly ignorant remark. So anything that is popular must automatically be good? I recall National Socialism being pretty popular in Germany some time last century, must have been because it was truly, objectively better. That's why people liked it.