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#11
Jan 10 2012 09:49am
They are acclaimed because they made music about drugs and sex while the beatles were singing about rainbows and strawberry fields.

Brian Eno once said "The original VU album only sold 10.000 copies but everyone of thoose 10.000 people formed a band"

They were a huge influence on the Punk, garage and alternative rock scene.

Quote (KramerFtw @ Jan 10 2012 01:26am)
who?

what?


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This post was edited by Svartermetalisk on Jan 10 2012 09:52am
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Jan 10 2012 10:13am
Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Jan 10 2012 10:49am)
They are acclaimed because they made music about drugs and sex while the beatles were singing about rainbows and strawberry fields.

Brian Eno once said "The original VU album only sold 10.000 copies but everyone of thoose 10.000 people formed a band"

They were a huge influence on the Punk, garage and alternative rock scene.



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lol kinda want to quote this.
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#13
Jan 10 2012 12:40pm
I discovered VU by a casualty, and really enjoy listening their music.

Datuum: I'm 21 and I use to listen hardtek and drum n bass
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#14
Jan 10 2012 01:19pm
Also White Light / White Heat is probably their hardest to listen to album.

You'll probably like VU & Nico + S/T more.

Loaded is not even a real VU album so I won't even comment on that.
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Jan 10 2012 03:31pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ 8 Jan 2012 23:24)
It is as though they decided to put down their pretentious hipster facade for an album and make quality music.

Ha. They were pre-hipster.

Now that I think about it... I wonder what Warhol / Basquiat / VU would think about hipsters today?...
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#16
Jan 10 2012 05:20pm
Quote (Svartermetalisk @ 11 Jan 2012 06:19)
Also White Light / White Heat is probably their hardest to listen to album.

You'll probably like VU & Nico + S/T more.

Loaded is not even a real VU album so I won't even comment on that.


I hope to God you mean Squeeze :O
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#17
Jan 10 2012 10:52pm
Quote (Andross1 @ Jan 10 2012 07:09am)
I think referring to them as "pretentious hipsters" is a little forced, and a tad bit pretentious in itself. A lot of the minds of the 50s and 60s were genuinely intelligent; not raised on iPhones and Google and Kerouac novels.


How is it forced, exactly? Also, when did I make the implication that hipsters can't be intelligent?

Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Jan 10 2012 03:49pm)
They are acclaimed because they made music about drugs and sex while the beatles were singing about rainbows and strawberry fields.

Brian Eno once said "The original VU album only sold 10.000 copies but everyone of thoose 10.000 people formed a band"

They were a huge influence on the Punk, garage and alternative rock scene.



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Because the Beatles never made songs about drugs, sex and other subjects besides "rainbows and strawberry fields"?

As for the second part of this post I specifically asked you guys not to use the "influence card", which you have here.

Influence does not equal enjoyable and/or quality music and the entire argument seems like it is, as I've said, rooted more in the technicality and history of music production itself, not in artistic merit.

Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Jan 10 2012 07:19pm)
Also White Light / White Heat is probably their hardest to listen to album.

You'll probably like VU & Nico + S/T more.

Loaded is not even a real VU album so I won't even comment on that.


Like I said, I enjoyed Loaded, their self-titled is there best and when I listened to their debut a while ago I didn't particularly care for it, although I will be giving it another full listen soon (probably this weekend).


Quote (ChowYunFat @ Jan 10 2012 09:31pm)
Ha.  They were pre-hipster.

Now that I think about it...  I wonder what Warhol / Basquiat / VU would think about hipsters today?...


Proto-hipster, lol.

This post was edited by Kamahl16 on Jan 10 2012 10:58pm
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#18
Jan 10 2012 11:06pm
The first two albums benefited greatly from John Cale's creative genius. If you didn't enjoy them, fine; that's your right. The self-titled album and Loaded are easy-listening by comparison and completely abandoned the experiments of the first two albums, and at times it feels like there's an instrument missing, as if the mic was accidentally muted in the recording studio. Different strokes, but I'll take the first two albums any day.
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#19
Jan 10 2012 11:12pm
Quote (Individuality @ Jan 11 2012 05:06am)
The first two albums benefited greatly from John Cale's creative genius. If you didn't enjoy them, fine; that's your right. The self-titled album and Loaded are easy-listening by comparison and completely abandoned the experiments of the first two albums, and at times it feels like there's an instrument missing, as if the mic was accidentally muted in the recording studio. Different strokes, but I'll take the first two albums any day.


I guess I am just curious as to what it is specifically about the first two albums which appeals to people. Does creativity on its own appeal to you?

I just think of Trout Mask Replica and some of Can's stuff when I think of creativity which translates to poor music.
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#20
Jan 11 2012 12:31am
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Jan 10 2012 09:52pm)
Influence does not equal enjoyable and/or quality music and the entire argument seems like it is, as I've said, rooted more in the technicality and history of music production itself, not in artistic merit.


This thread is jokes. I've seen more than a few credible responses and now we're disregarding influence? And we're bringing up artistic merit? Artistic merit doesn't call for any argument or fact-slanging, if you like it you like it and if you don't you don't.

This post was edited by Andross1 on Jan 11 2012 12:31am
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