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Feb 4 2013 11:18pm
Quote (Matty602 @ Feb 5 2013 12:09am)
are warriors as hard to play as the site says? says there skill lvl is 5/5? i remember playing warrior in beta, did not seem that hard, only hard part about them was having to dodge alot


They take much more skill to play well compared to other classes imo, especially as a tank.
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Feb 4 2013 11:19pm
Quote (missalaire @ Feb 5 2013 12:18am)
They take much more skill to play well compared to other classes imo, especially as a tank.



evasion tank, the FUN CLASS to play lol, found other classes to easy and boring
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Feb 7 2013 01:41am
Quote (GEZodiac @ Feb 5 2013 03:56am)
Irate? What? Games going p2w there is no denying that, games gonna be utter trash after doing so. There i no further need to comment on what you feel to be a full game. Phone games and mobas are not the in the same scale as a fully fledged 3d non lobby game, their continuing cost of keeping the game running is a fraction of full 3d mmos. I know this concept is hard for you to grasp, but please try to.

chronoscrolls were a way for people with less time and mor money to buy time for those with more time but less money, a transaction occuring to benefit both parties and enmasse. the upcoming p2w shop, buy some shit give enmasse your cash and go be unbalanced with all the other p2w goofs.

The torrential rain of f2p made people think it can be done easily. When in reality on company has about 5-6 mmos and all house then on shitty servers and offer no support, people flock to these games and praise the shit out of it then the next f2p mmo is announced and people flock to that. I actually rode a wave into eden eternal because of a friend and then they rode that wave out a week later for dragon nest.  ofc people like omer from mmo hut spread this disease like the plague, when maybe a handful of free to play mmos out of that torrential rain make it past a year before shutting down.

Bankruptcy is not the answer, Tera was released unfinished in korea, almost finished in japan and na/eu received a taped together mess. We got a game that played drastically differently but did not capitalize on this aspect. Instead we got a full action mmo that still glued itself to a ancient blueprint set in stone by blizzard, and blizzard has  been the only one to get it right and evolve it.

ofc you will rebuttal with a poor response but the fact is, games going p2w, gonna be worse than it is now, and people will flock to it like the f2p wave and leave with the tide.


again you make some poor excuse. FG for gold is still work being done by both parties to trade, p2w enmasse cash shop is going to be cash right to enmasse for perks and easymode.


what about buying fg and trading for gold? easymode?

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Feb 7 2013 01:51am
I wonder when people will realize the following:

1. fg for gold is not as easy as it sounds. 2:1 ratio makes it about 100$ for 7500 gold, even less for pvp. Wrap your head around this, and you people who have not played the game until it went f2p (aka you trashy scrubs) 7500 can sometimes equal only +1 to t13 gear (current tier is 14) and sometimes you get so unlucky 15000 gold does not even cut it.

2. fg is most often acquired by means other than irl money. I have 4900 and did not spend a dolar I just have gotten a little bit of fg from playing other games and selling thing to people, a service from a person to a person only benefiting the two people.

Okay, I am going to blow your minds with this kids.

The p2w, that will inevitably come to NA Tera, will have you buy perks and benefits directly from enmasse. There is already p2w, its called a subscription, paying players have advantages over free users that are not just cosmetic.

Follow me some more kids.

Free to play is a guise, and deteriorates the quality of any game.

This post was edited by GEZodiac on Feb 7 2013 01:53am
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Feb 7 2013 10:32pm
Quote (GEZodiac @ Feb 6 2013 11:51pm)
I wonder when people will realize the following:

1. fg for gold is not as easy as it sounds. 2:1 ratio makes it about 100$ for 7500 gold, even less for pvp. Wrap your head around this, and you people who have not played the game until it went f2p (aka you trashy scrubs) 7500 can sometimes equal only +1 to t13 gear (current tier is 14) and sometimes you get so unlucky 15000 gold does not even cut it.

2. fg is most often acquired by means other than irl money. I have 4900 and did not spend a dolar I just have gotten a little bit of fg from playing  other games and selling thing to people, a service from a person to a person only benefiting the two people.

Okay, I am going to blow your minds with this kids.

The p2w, that will inevitably come to NA Tera, will have you buy perks and benefits directly from enmasse. There is already p2w, its called a subscription, paying players have advantages over free users that are not just cosmetic.

Follow me some more kids.

Free to play is a guise, and deteriorates the quality of any game.


100fg = 1 USD (comparing vs mtgo tix, D3 IGG, EVE ISK, and the donor forums)

100usd = 10kfg = 20k gold

not nearly as bad as you make it sound

also, I made all my fg from casually playing d3, its not that hard to accumulate fg if you know what to sell/do
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Feb 8 2013 07:06pm
Quote (Jaruri @ Feb 8 2013 04:32am)
100fg = 1 USD (comparing vs mtgo tix, D3 IGG, EVE ISK, and the donor forums)

100usd = 10kfg = 20k gold

not nearly as bad as you make it sound

also, I made all my fg from casually playing d3, its not that hard to accumulate fg if you know what to sell/do


apparently your brain capacity is really small, as well as reading comprehension.

p2w is directly using money to gain an advantage, the person I was referring to "buy fg to buy gold" that is p2w, but then you lack the brain power to realize what you just said is exactly what I am not against you worked for the fg and did not spend $ on it... still work being done by both parties to trade.

Also


ROFLROFL

Not p2w? Look at the grab bags

http://tera.enmasse.com/game-guide/store-items/grab-bags

p2w.

Inc 100% alks when the game becomes deserted after the droves of mouth breathing f2p leave, to milk the last out of people.

/e and such bullshit p2w with the sub fees. dungeons (also extra rewards) cooldowns 50%, faster rep gains, fast travel... well thiso ne is not exactly p2w but fucking christ should be for everyone.

Rift #1 you use the travel functions, it is immediate.

This post was edited by GEZodiac on Feb 8 2013 07:09pm
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Quote (GEZodiac @ Feb 8 2013 05:06pm)
apparently your brain capacity is really small, as well as reading comprehension.

p2w is directly using money to gain an advantage, the person I was referring to "buy fg to buy gold"  that is p2w, but then you lack the brain power to realize what you just said is exactly what I am not against you worked for the fg and did not spend $ on it... still work being done by both parties to trade.

Also


ROFLROFL

Not p2w? Look at the grab bags

http://tera.enmasse.com/game-guide/store-items/grab-bags

p2w.

Inc 100% alks when the game becomes deserted after the droves of mouth breathing f2p leave, to milk the last out of people.

/e and such bullshit p2w with the sub fees. dungeons (also extra rewards) cooldowns 50%, faster rep gains,  fast travel... well thiso ne is not exactly p2w but fucking christ should be for everyone.

Rift #1 you use the travel functions, it is immediate.


i never said anything about it not being p2w...

you should learn to read before typing. might help you not look like an idiot

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Feb 9 2013 01:07am
Quote (Jaruri @ Feb 9 2013 02:23am)
i never said anything about it not being p2w...

you should learn to read before typing. might help you not look like an idiot


I will be fair with this, I was referring to people saying the game wouldn't be p2w earlier in the thread.

Irregardless I pmed another person who was enthusiastic about this game when it actually came out and paid for it hoping that the problems that was coming over would be changed for us, a north american audience.

What we got was minuscule change and people left, quickly.

What has happened with Tera Rising is atrocious, they are offering the game that we paid for for free and are now adding just some of the things that would have helped the game when it first launched as paying bonus'.

It has gone fully fledged pay to win, with elite players and the grab bags, and Enmasse claims since people that are not paying do not get any nerfs that it is a truly free to play experience. That is utter bullshit, and those from review sites that have said so have not even played the game as it once was, these changes were easy to implement early and were not.

Another thorn in my side is I saw many accounts on their site (when i went on their earlier since my CC was apparently reattached to my account) making threads about getting elite status when last June, and continuing on since, were on the forums frequently saying it needs to be free to play because they shouldn't be forced to pay, but here they are just "eliting" (subscribing), because it is an apparent "choice", bet they would stop playing in a month if they played what we played, since their attention span and investment in the game was nil.

It is a perpetual spin around the drain which is the mmo(rpg) market. Instead of wanting good p2p people chant f2p, which there are hundreds of varying from shit to piss poor.

What happens in 5 months when new elites leave because they are not having continuing fun (which led the game ot its current state) and they have to devise a new way to bring people back. IE higher, more potent, buffs to aid even worse players.


Tera, as a korean developed mmo, receives a trickle of content that revolves around dungeons (very few of them btw) just recently alleviated by a daily possibly giving fodder for enchanting. So you get your thing from the dungeon, then just log in 10 minutes a day to up it till next tier.

1 bg, 1 type of arena, nearly no dungeons per tier, and 1 raid.

This game has been out for 2 years nearly, and this is the showing?


If Rift was full action it would be the most underrated mmo out there, it gives people more things to do in 3 month intervals than Tera has in its lifetime.


/e a thing here at the end, I refuse to play free to plays in any form, games rated M. Anyone can now dl it, even kids and ruin my experience at least with p2p I know the people I am surrounded by have put the same investment in and are getting out of it what hey want. Also destroys the rating system, again the game is rated m and again anyone can dl it. Also it makes, I am going to be racist here because a ethnic group completely fucked over the pvp server and qqed forever about it when they were punished, filthy Brazilians (and others) and crying because the game is laggy/not translated/not catering to their schedules with nexus. Game is not f2p and the world expects them to increase their labor force so some BR can play for free? GTFO.

These are cold truths about the f2p market and why I refuse to play them.

A game requires a purchase upfront. Game was 50$ on release, then was 30 with a free trial and apparently that was not enough, it must be 100% free then plebs can go pay for buffs like the plebs they are because "I chose to".

This post was edited by GEZodiac on Feb 9 2013 01:16am
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