All MMO's are grinds. Thats why the market is in such dissarray at the moment. The best pvp game is a 10+ year old game (DAOC), and the best pve game is nearly as old (WoW). The industry doesnt need generic pve copy # 473,460. You wonder why WoW is so popular still? Because people know there is no point in going to another pve game to do the same thing they already do in WOW.

GW2 is basically the last (pvp) hope for the MMO Genre.

From most of the tera videos ive seen I cant tell if the beta testers just have horrible pc's or if the server is just that laggy.

This post was edited by steezinNA on Feb 27 2012 08:32am

Horrible computers, the gameplay is extremely smooth.

I figured, though it seemed at times in the video the game itself (not the video recording) became sluggish in responses to player interactions, which would lead me to believe the game would be a mess @ release with 1000's of people filling a server as opposed to a CBT which has maybe a few hundred at once?

On my comp (which is shitty), I played on near-max settings with very smooth, near-flawless gameplay.



Tera may be an MMO, and it may be a grind, but it PLAYS differently. That is the important part. What you are doing while you are playing is irrelevant, as long as the playing itself is fun.

In other words: In other MMOs, you grind loot for the sake of grinding loot. In Tera, the combat is rewarding in and of itself; the loot feels more like a compliment than a main attraction.

The same is true for any rpg. A good rpg makes you keep playing because of interesting enemies/combat. A bad rpg makes you keep playing just to get better loot.

This post was edited by gateguy on Feb 27 2012 09:35am

There is no such thing as "rewarding combat". The reward is the fat loot. And to say that a bad rpg makes you keep playing just to get better loot shows me you're about as casual of a gamer as they come.

Who cares what the enemies look like? They are going to respawn with the same damn pixels in 30 seconds anyways.

The problem these days is these so called "gamers" want fluff more than they want the actual game to be fun and lasting with content and abilities and dungeons that work. Do you know why most of these games fail? Its because the average (Casual Gamer) wants completely irrelevant things like new armor skins, pets to follow that do nothing, more customizable character models (sorry but when im stabbing you in the face with my sword im not gonna say "oh wow look at those sweet green eyes this guy has").

Which is also why I think GW2 will be a total fail. The amount of random, terrible, casual, super casual gamers they allowed to just randomly sign up for a closed beta via facebook is atrocious. 315k (# of people who LIKE GW2 on FB alone) likely signed up for the gw2 beta. Of those, im sure MAYBE 10000 of those people are actual serious gamers who know what it takes for a game to be successful at release and know how to actually beta a game. There will be 1000's of people betaing gw2 just to "play it" rather than make sure the game comes out working with minimal exploitive bugs, abilities, etc.

Watching most of these tera videos its likely the game will trend toward the same fail release as most games. Generic casual gamers just pveing mobs not trying to find bugs, exploits, glitches, overpowrered synching of abilities/classes, etc filming their way to some type of "e glory" because some idiot dev picked their email address and gave them a key.

1 million beta sign ups for GW2.

Hopefully they pass out keys by people who signed up under their guild tags via other games.

Stopped reading there.

TL;DR, welcome to mmos newb.

After reading your entire previous post, I realize you are a dumbass who does not understand the meaning of the term "rewarding combat."

I'm not talking about gear. Or looks. Or pets. Or mounts. Or loot. Or any of that other "fluff" bullshit. As I said before, a good RPG has rewarding combat. A bad rpg has fluff. You just listed every element of a bad rpg in a single post. Clearly you have never played a good rpg.

This post was edited by gateguy on Feb 27 2012 10:46am

you know arenanet have hundreds of people testing the game since before december.

it's not only these casual noobs you talk of.

the game is really polished atm, it's been tested by the press and they loved what they saw.

dont be worried, the game will be superb ^^