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Jan 16 2014 10:01pm
ive gotten the BF itch again recently. i held off on buying it for quite a while bc i heard when it was released it was buggy as hell.

been playing alot of CS:GO lately, but now i got a little money sitting around and alot of free time.

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Jan 17 2014 12:28am
To this day its the only game I regret buying, who knows you might like it.
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Jan 17 2014 02:22am
Quote (Effektivv @ Jan 17 2014 06:28am)
To this day its the only game I regret buying, who knows you might like it.


well, i pre-ordered cod:ghosts and ive never felt more duped in my entire life after spending money on a game. and i have a ton of games ive bought on steam sale that i havnt even played.
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Jan 17 2014 12:27pm
Ghosts is garbage. even tho BF4 has some bugs (BF3 did too first few months after release) its still WAY better than ghosts.
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Jan 17 2014 02:08pm
its legit get it.
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Jan 17 2014 03:09pm
BF series is always screwed up first few months after release, just takes them awhile to fix it..which is the shitty part.

Bf3 was the EXACT same way.
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Quote (DaRkGoDz @ Jan 17 2014 06:27pm)
Ghosts is garbage. even tho BF4 has some bugs (BF3 did too first few months after release) its still WAY better than ghosts.


yea ghosts made me want to punch a baby.

are most of the bugs worked out? since its been out awhile now.
Quote (AriG0Ld @ Jan 17 2014 08:08pm)
its legit get it.


yea, i think i will in a few days probably. reinstalled bf3 again was playing that surprised so many people still play it.

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yea ghosts made me want to punch a baby.

are most of the bugs worked out? since its been out awhile now.


yea, i think i will in a few days probably. reinstalled bf3 again was playing that surprised so many people still play it.


not really but its not NEARLY as bad tho... still needs work. i think it took them like 4-6 months to fix BF3 after its release..so yeah
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Quote (Runnin_scared @ Jan 17 2014 02:22am)
well, i pre-ordered cod:ghosts and ive never felt more duped in my entire life after spending money on a game. and i have a ton of games ive bought on steam sale that i havnt even played.


You will feel the same way with BF4. As someone who was very active in the BF3 competitive scene, I do not recommend BF4. The gunplay blows and is very dumbed down to make recoil control easy for newbs, the movement is sluggish, vehicles are not balanced, the netcode and hit reg is worse than any other game ever in the history of online first person shooters.

If you are a CS:GO player, you will hate this shitty casual game. You will trade kills with bad players even though you started shooting first, you will die from behind cover due to built in lag and low server tick rates, you will shoot a guy 5 times and get no hit registration and then die from the one hit kill glitch. The game is literally chock full of glitches and bugs. When you get shot at, the hit indicator on your screen will tell you the wrong direction that the bullets are hitting you from. The shitty guns will fire with hipfire accuracy if you shoot too soon after aiming down sights, you will die to guys who are still running around with 0% health, you will lol in your pants when you realize the suppression is gayer than in bf3 and there is random barrel sway when shooting with automatic fire, you will die to newbs spamming explosives down a hallway with heir dick in the dirt because the shitty movement rewards camping, you cannot out-maneuver people the way you could in bf3, your screen will be glitched after you get revived and you may be stuck with hipfire accuracy, you will die 6 feet behind cover after trying to escape from enemy fire, the clients and servers arent even in sync with each other and the spectator mode is such garbage that it doesnt even show what the players sees on his screen, there are hardly any infantry maps and the only infantry game modes have random spawns instead of spawning on flags. I could go on and on about glitches, but the core of the game is different from bf3 and you will feel it as soon as you first load in. Just a few examples with the gunplay, the FOV (field of view) does not change when you ADS the same way as it did in BF3. So when you ADS (aim down sight) you keep the same FOV that you set it to in your graphics settings, whereas in BF3 you would get the zoom bonus from having a built-in FOV when ADS'ing. This means that it now sucks to play at a high FOV because everything will still be really small when you ADS so low FOV players will have an advantage over you. Another thing they changed is that there is an instant back to center aim assist, even on PC to make recoil control something that takes no skill (not that the guns in this game have much recoil to begin with). See here for details on what I am talking about http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1vaayn/instant_backtocenter_pc_aim_assist_any_ideas_on/ Dice has their head so far up EA's ass that they can't even release patches to fix glitches without breaking other things or creating more glitches, much less have the time to address fundamental game mechanics that make the game worse than Wii sports.

Basically DICE decided to cater to the most low bob casual "hurr durr lets PTFO" scrubs by dumbing down the game and adding stupid gimmicks like levolution and a million gun attachments and a whole slew of other useless content like camos and "battlepacks" that add nothing to the experience. Of course people will eat this shit up because they think more content = better game. The core of the game is broken which is why the competitive community has abandoned this game. CEVO is actually going to host a "Back to BF3' tourney soon because the BF4 competitive scene is already dead http://cevo.com/forums/topic/5495/battlefield-4/back-to-bf3-tournament-/ (zhinto thought it would be the biggest online eSports FPS shooter in 6 months...DICE devs are a joke). Basically, DICE made a casual game for casual players who dont even understand that the core of the gameplay mechanics (especially gunplay) are broken. The game is unplayable is you are semi-competent at online shooters. For all the problems that BF3 had, it honestly feels like a great game compared to BF4.

Seriously, don't listen to randoms from JSP who probably spend all their time doing meph runs, go on reddit and look at all the shit that is wrong with this game.
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/
Save your money and do not pre-order any game by DICE (like i did) in the future.

This post was edited by camopk on Jan 18 2014 08:01pm
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You will feel the same way with BF4. As someone who was very active in the BF3 competitive scene,  I do not recommend BF4. The gunplay blows and is very dumbed down to make recoil control easy for newbs, the movement is sluggish, vehicles are not balanced, the netcode and hit reg is worse than any other game ever in the history of online first person shooters.

If you are a CS:GO player, you will hate this shitty casual game. You will trade kills with bad players even though you started shooting first, you will die from behind cover due to built in lag and low server tick rates, you will shoot a guy 5 times and get no hit registration and then die from the one hit kill glitch. The game is literally chock full of glitches and bugs. When you get shot at, the hit indicator on your screen will tell you the wrong direction that the bullets are hitting you from. The shitty guns will fire with hipfire accuracy if you shoot too soon after aiming down sights, you will die to guys who are still running around with 0% health, you will lol in your pants when you realize the suppression is gayer than in bf3 and there is random barrel sway when shooting with automatic fire, you will die to newbs spamming explosives down a hallway with heir dick in the dirt because the shitty movement rewards camping, you cannot out-maneuver people the way you could in bf3, your screen will be glitched after you get revived and you may be stuck with hipfire accuracy, you will die 6 feet behind cover after trying to escape from enemy fire, the clients and servers arent even in sync with each other and the  spectator mode is such garbage that it doesnt even show what the players sees on his screen, there are hardly any infantry maps and the only infantry game modes have random spawns instead of spawning on flags. I could go on and on about glitches, but the core of the game is different from bf3 and you will feel it as soon as you first load in. Just a few examples with the gunplay, the FOV (field of view) does not change when you ADS the same way as it did in BF3. So when you ADS (aim down sight) you keep the same FOV that you set it to in your graphics settings, whereas in BF3 you would get the zoom bonus from having a built-in FOV when ADS'ing. This means that it now sucks to play at a high FOV because everything will still be really small when you ADS so low FOV players will have an advantage over you. Another thing they changed is that there is an instant back to center aim assist, even on PC to make recoil control something that takes no skill (not that the guns in this game have much recoil to begin with). See here for details on what I am talking about http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1vaayn/instant_backtocenter_pc_aim_assist_any_ideas_on/ Dice has their head so far up EA's ass that they can't even release patches to fix glitches without breaking other things or creating more glitches, much less have the time to address fundamental game mechanics that make the game worse than Wii sports.

Basically DICE decided to cater to the most low bob casual "hurr durr lets PTFO" scrubs by dumbing down the game and adding stupid gimmicks like levolution and a million gun attachments and a whole slew of other useless content like camos and "battlepacks" that add nothing to the experience. Of course people will eat this shit up because they think more content = better game. The core of the game is broken which is why the competitive community has abandoned this game. CEVO is actually going to host a "Back to BF3' tourney soon because the BF4 competitive scene is already dead http://cevo.com/forums/topic/5495/battlefield-4/back-to-bf3-tournament-/ (zhinto thought it would be the biggest online eSports FPS shooter in 6 months...DICE devs are a joke). Basically, DICE made a casual game for casual players who dont even understand that the core of the gameplay mechanics (especially gunplay) are broken. The game is unplayable is you are semi-competent at online shooters. For all the problems that BF3 had, it honestly feels like a great game compared to BF4.

Seriously, don't listen to randoms from JSP who probably spend all their time doing meph runs, go on reddit and look at all the shit that is wrong with this game.
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/
Save your money and do not pre-order any game by DICE (like i did) in the future.


holy shit... i never checked reddit before now, it looks like a COD forum lol. half the posts "fix this bug" lol

i was looking for something casual to screw around on. but if the hit reg sucks i would gouge my eyes out playing it. been playing alot of CSGO lately, and going to BF3 even feels odd, you can spray a whole clip on target and it seems like only 1:4 bullets hit, you always use 20 bullets to kill anyone.. is there some sort of trick to this? am i always supposed to tap fire?

with that said i still enjoy BF3, BFBC2 was also a ton of fun. but if BF4 is bad maybe i wont buy it, ive seen alot of posts lately from people saying they went back to bf3, gotta be a reason for that i guess.
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