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Jul 2 2020 11:42pm
Here I want to identify a frequent problem at JSP with few examples.

Since newcomers and infrequent users might not be familiar with item prices - more likely ranges, there is a typical scam-type attitude we all observe especially for the last 2 season.

First i will give the last two example of the same item and describe with citations.

Example 1 :
Topic : https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83553118&f=169&p=560509569#p560509569
Item : Ap 15 Ed 3 sox

A newcomer, platemate opened that topic to sell his item with his own sale price; which was 400 fgs.
Please check the 2nd comment.

Quote (Asskicker55 @ Jul 2 2020 02:54am)
400?😅


Asskicker55 is a known Jsp user at East. I will not tell what was aim on posting that comment. He needs profit, he needs the market crashed.

(Some people are also opening funny topics; more likely - Jah Bin 50 fgs - and their friends, brothers, or theirselves (alt+tab) binning at the same moment. However there is no sale. Just fake topics to crash market and influence the rest to follow that trend; mostly impacts %10 price reduction in a short term. Means %10 profit for them. How they're making that profit? That's another topic. I assume everybody knows.

Quote (platemate @ Jul 2 2020 02:55am)
sold for 400g yesterday


Platemate is right, few more sold at 400-600 fgs price range in 24 hours.

Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 2 2020 06:18pm)
200 fgs to keep it rolling. my fav armor.

btw, don't forget;

his item, his price.

if you have cheaper, feel free to sell for cheap. why you're fighting here?

to buy his item. if he's selling at an expensive price, buy from someone who is selling cheap?

not exist? that makes this item expensive.

by the way welcome to jsp.


Here i reminded one critical issue. His item = His price. And that item is already the most desired armor type and very rare at the moment.

Quote (mike_litoris @ Jul 2 2020 06:18pm)
bin


Quote (platemate @ Jul 2 2020 06:25pm)
Sold t4t!


Happy ending. Sold at the value seller desired. Thanks to mike_litoris binned before few more lowballs arrive there.
Asskicker55 and some other may feel sad about that.

Example 2 :
Topic : https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83566543&f=169&p=560502586#p560502586
Item : Archon Plate 15/15 - 3 sox

^kerser11 - probably hates me because of a Faith GMB issue (he lowballed me a bit :) ) previous season opened that topic to sell his total perfect base.

A bunch of lowball offers (100ish ^^ ) made me start that item at a good value that this item deserves;

Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 3 2020 09:09am)
300 to start. glws.


Quote (Kaneki @ Jul 3 2020 09:11am)
I hope you take this offer lol


Quote (Evabizzy @ Jul 3 2020 09:12am)
It is a solid offer around its value


Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 3 2020 09:13am)
15/0 sold vs 400 and 450 few hours ago.

300 would be cheap imho.


Mentioned there and pm'ed kerser11 with the price range that armor deserves.

And he asked me if i can buy the item.


There are numerous examples; happening almost everyday, especially happening at rare items (once i'm asked to buy a 1k+ value ring for 350 fgs because i started over lowballs - told the value of the ring would be / luckily he believed and changed his mind to give it another try with setting bin at 700ish fgs / sold for 750 fgs / ^Cercei bought that beautiful ring)

That seller was also tired of lowballs, and once i throw %50 of the value as starting number (trimming lowballs) - that happened.

Hereby, i offer that as a free service, with the final citation from the mentioned topics.

Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 3 2020 12:11pm)
My pleasure. There is a habit to trick and get items for "cheap" that we call lowballs. They also mostly focus on newcomers (sadly) since they're not familiar with JSP currency (fgs) and trades here. So please if you're not sure about the prices, do not hesitate to open p/c topics. Welcome to pm me anytime too. If i know, i share. If i do not know, we learn and figure out together.

^kerser11 also sold me his 15/15 Archon Plate 2 hours ago, explained him the same when he was tired of lowballs; told him not to sell me at that cheap price just because "my offer is leading offer". My offer was "starting offer". Even it was not my need at the moment (weekend i might be off) - still bought.

That's the core of trade, even in real life too (I'm trading between some countries - happening almost same things in commodity trades)

There will be 100 people lowballs you. Just 1 person comes and pays the real value = is the reality of JSP for last 2 ladders.

So be patient. Ignore lowballs. Enjoy JSP and enjoy the game.

Thanks.

Kerser11's topic here for reference, told him twice there + with messages :https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83566543&f=169&p=560502586#p560502586



P.S. Thanks to the people, those are always blaming me for "gauging" prices, etc.

We all understand why they feel sad and to be sincere, just pity.

Please do not forget, it's just a game and enjoy it.

Thanks.

This post was edited by moosicdetoreador on Jul 2 2020 11:46pm
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Jul 2 2020 11:49pm
Don’t forget how many new comers u ripped. Promote good manners
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Jul 2 2020 11:52pm
Sounds like someone is mad that supply and demand dictates cheaper prices in a game economy where value can be created through the use of electricity.
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Jul 2 2020 11:54pm
wheres the tldr version this shit is a story
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Quote (Asskicker55 @ Jul 3 2020 01:49am)
Don’t forget how many new comers u ripped. Promote good manners


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Jul 2 2020 11:58pm
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Jul 2 2020 11:59pm
While you're here I just wanted to post a mini rant about how I feel about this d2jsp economy. Mind you this is coming from a guy who before this ladder season hasnt played in almost 10 years.

ALL of you selling items like (lets say 30+ life ele and pnb gcs) for 30-50 FG and lower.

Do you realize

1 FG = roughly 3.4 cents per (if you're buying forum gold form d2jsp)

This means you are selling your ele or pnb gc or whatever the fuck it is for roughly 90 cents.

Idk about most of you, but I don't even turn on my computer for a 90 cent trade, i don't even wanna begin with you people doing 5fg trades, you realize you're wasting your time with a 15 cent trade? Like your time could be better spent watching paint dry. I truly dont understand, so maybe someone explain to me.

I don't understand what happened to this d2 economy to make it so bad but god damn, its almost just not even worth playing.

Cant find PK games, items are worth absolute shit. I know this probably means nothing to any of you and maybe its because there are so few players and so many items, simple supply and demand economics but damn did it have to die so fast?
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Quote (Swag7 @ Jul 3 2020 12:59am)
While you're here I just wanted to post a mini rant about how I feel about this d2jsp economy. Mind you this is coming from a guy who before this ladder season hasnt played in almost 10 years.

ALL of you selling items like (lets say 30+ life ele and pnb gcs) for 30-50 FG and lower.

Do you realize

1 FG = roughly 3.4 cents per (if you're buying forum gold form d2jsp)

This means you are selling your ele or pnb gc or whatever the fuck it is for roughly 90 cents.

Idk about most of you, but I don't even turn on my computer for a 90 cent trade, i don't even wanna begin with you people doing 5fg trades, you realize you're wasting your time with a 15 cent trade? Like your time could be better spent watching paint dry. I truly dont understand, so maybe someone explain to me.

I don't understand what happened to this d2 economy to make it so bad but god damn, its almost just not even worth playing.

Cant find PK games, items are worth absolute shit. I know this probably means nothing to any of you and maybe its because there are so few players and so many items, simple supply and demand economics but damn did it have to die so fast?


Some of us play for fun. You either have to have an IQ below 100 or one above 140 to sell d2 items and expect to profit. Midwits get the rope. I am having a blast getting items that formerly were unavailable for a few dollars. Yes, I remember the $50 Windforce on eBay days.
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Jul 3 2020 12:06am
Quote (jackzors @ Jul 3 2020 12:54am)
wheres the tldr version this shit is a story


yah i just wanna see the spreadsheet
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Jul 3 2020 12:07am
Quote (Asskicker55 @ 3 Jul 2020 01:49)
Don’t forget how many new comers u ripped. Promote good manners


Haha this
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