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Sep 5 2024 09:17am
Hello guys. Ok i spent $120 on Diablo 4 and expansion.

Do I regret it? well I have spent more than that on diablo items so I'm not sure How I feel.


The question is...

WHat do i do In diablo 4?

I have no idea what to do ..

The PTR... do I make a new char? do I use my old toon?

The patch notes added some skills like Dance of Knives for rogue (which is fun) but it still is underwhelming game..

This party finder thing is amazing but I still feel like I get bored SO fast in diablo 4.

I will love it for like 30 minutes than Just get extremely bored...

I play hardcore d2r so maybe because I'm playing softcore on diablo 4 is that whats boringme?

Can some1 tell me what to do to have FUN in the game... not just GRIND but have fun?


like give me a blueprint to have fun when I have a day off from work I want to play diablo 2 or diablo 4 but I just cant get a grip on what to do...

I play diablo 2 but I made 10 lvl 99's
I play diablo 4 but I get bored after 30 mins of helltide because I do not know what else to do and basically you can use all your skills after 1 hour (not complaining)

they slowed the pace down for Diablo 4 but I did not think it needed to be slowed down...


i do NOT LIKE POE because its just doing maps constantly over and over again.. but I love doing CS on diablo 2.... so its not the repetivieness that gets me its something else...


I love doing chaos... but baal .. not so much..

I just love the pace for cs...

but once i Hit lvl 93-94... i retire... then I make a new toon or play diablo 4 for 30 mins then take a nap...

any suggestion?
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Sep 5 2024 09:32am
Different type of games. Both has different end game. People play d2 to just fill their holy grail collection as their endgame goal. D4 is still young and it’s leaning towards d3 endgame style rather than d2. So if you like d2 you won’t be too keen with current d4. If you like d4 then you’ll probably think d2 is boring while having no endgame
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Sep 5 2024 09:34am
Start a SSF hardcore char in D4. See how far you can take it or play something else and start with D4 again in 1 month with the xpac.

Some fun builds could be: thorns barb, sumoner druid, hydra sorc pr whatever rocks your boat ...

Ignore the PTR .. makes no sense to "play" a broken version of the game unless you are serious about testing and giving back feedback.

In D2 there is nothing left to be done. Unless you start HC offline and start a new holy grail.... that could be a decent one if you haven t done it yet.

Cheers

This post was edited by Apovax on Sep 5 2024 09:39am
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Sep 5 2024 10:58am
The gameplay and type are indicative of two different generations playing the game. Diablo 2, was built back then when people have attention spans. Diablo 4 is built for kids nowadays that want instant gratification.

Diablo 4 is nice for myself and my friends because we can play it for a few weeks/month and put it down and wait for the next season.

Diablo 2 is nice for the long haul because the game never changes and you can always pick it up where you left off.

If you want help with Diablo 4, you're welcome to join my friends and I, and if you need help we can help you. It's a really fun game and this season with the addition of the hordes, it was really easy to level up and through. Next season is going to be even more fun honestly, with a lot of changes but it is undoubtedly going to be more of a grind than this season.

If you want my Btag, just pm me. The social aspect of Diablo 4 is not there. You ask anything in chat, and it will go unanswered or full of dickheads.
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Sep 5 2024 11:14am
Quote (NAkedPro @ 5 Sep 2024 17:17)
Hello guys. Ok i spent $120 on Diablo 4 and expansion.

Do I regret it?

If you have to ask, the answer is yes.
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Sep 5 2024 12:54pm
Quote (junkie1991 @ Sep 5 2024 10:32am)
Different type of games. Both has different end game. People play d2 to just fill their holy grail collection as their endgame goal. D4 is still young and it’s leaning towards d3 endgame style rather than d2. So if you like d2 you won’t be too keen with current d4. If you like d4 then you’ll probably think d2 is boring while having no endgame


Quote (Apovax @ Sep 5 2024 10:34am)
Start a SSF hardcore char in D4. See how far you can take it or play something else and start with D4 again in 1 month with the xpac.

Some fun builds could be: thorns barb, sumoner druid, hydra sorc pr whatever rocks your boat ...

Ignore the PTR .. makes no sense to "play" a broken version of the game unless you are serious about testing and giving back feedback.

In D2 there is nothing left to be done. Unless you start HC offline and start a new holy grail.... that could be a decent one if you haven t done it yet.

Cheers


Quote (Xephyros @ Sep 5 2024 11:58am)
The gameplay and type are indicative of two different generations playing the game. Diablo 2, was built back then when people have attention spans. Diablo 4 is built for kids nowadays that want instant gratification.

Diablo 4 is nice for myself and my friends because we can play it for a few weeks/month and put it down and wait for the next season.

Diablo 2 is nice for the long haul because the game never changes and you can always pick it up where you left off.

If you want help with Diablo 4, you're welcome to join my friends and I, and if you need help we can help you. It's a really fun game and this season with the addition of the hordes, it was really easy to level up and through. Next season is going to be even more fun honestly, with a lot of changes but it is undoubtedly going to be more of a grind than this season.

If you want my Btag, just pm me. The social aspect of Diablo 4 is not there. You ask anything in chat, and it will go unanswered or full of dickheads.


this has been the most constructive critiscim i have ever seen and honest review without flame or attack or troll. im actually liking d4 more . I think i would love d4 A LOT if d2r didnt exist.. but because it does... its hard to go back and forth... i just starting playing LOD and its fun.. I been playing classic for 26 years so LOD is actually kinda new still to me for some reason. and nostalgic at the same time.
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Sep 6 2024 01:27am
For me finally from S5 I get the dopamine I got from D2R, altho it's much easier to find GG drops in D4 compared to D2R. Used to quit all previous seasons after reaching level 100 pretty much (and Glyphs 21 etc). But in the end it's the same goal - minmaxxing your gear.

Now my character in D4 is very minmaxxed (2-3 GA on all items + 2/3 crit MW on all of them) and I have semi-minmaxxed alts also (2x). Slowly losing the motivation to play, but if I do play this is what I do:

- Tormented bosses to farm GA items
- Infernal Hordes for mats to try to get 3 MW crit on some items
- Occasional Helltides if I need some boss materials / change from other activities
- PvP Whispers
- Pit Push
- Gauntlet (once per week)
- Help random people/friends

Havent found fun yet in Pit pushing too much and dont plan to play PTR.
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Sep 6 2024 10:06am
Quote (NAkedPro @ Sep 5 2024 05:17pm)
Hello guys. Ok i spent $120 on Diablo 4 and expansion.

Do I regret it? well I have spent more than that on diablo items so I'm not sure How I feel.


The question is...

WHat do i do In diablo 4?

I have no idea what to do ..

The PTR... do I make a new char? do I use my old toon?

The patch notes added some skills like Dance of Knives for rogue (which is fun) but it still is underwhelming game..

This party finder thing is amazing but I still feel like I get bored SO fast in diablo 4.

I will love it for like 30 minutes than Just get extremely bored...

I play hardcore d2r so maybe because I'm playing softcore on diablo 4 is that whats boringme?

Can some1 tell me what to do to have FUN in the game... not just GRIND but have fun?


like give me a blueprint to have fun when I have a day off from work I want to play diablo 2 or diablo 4 but I just cant get a grip on what to do...

I play diablo 2 but I made 10 lvl 99's
I play diablo 4 but I get bored after 30 mins of helltide because I do not know what else to do and basically you can use all your skills after 1 hour (not complaining)

they slowed the pace down for Diablo 4 but I did not think it needed to be slowed down...


i do NOT LIKE POE because its just doing maps constantly over and over again.. but I love doing CS on diablo 2.... so its not the repetivieness that gets me its something else...


I love doing chaos... but baal .. not so much..

I just love the pace for cs...

but once i Hit lvl 93-94... i retire... then I make a new toon or play diablo 4 for 30 mins then take a nap...

any suggestion?



It sounds like you're struggling to find the right groove in Diablo 4, especially given your long history with Diablo 2 and hardcore modes. Your experience seems a bit disjointed, where you enjoy parts of Diablo 4 but find yourself getting bored quickly. Let's try to tackle this from different angles to help you get more fun out of the game.

1. Switch to Hardcore Mode in Diablo 4
If you're used to the thrill and challenge of hardcore Diablo 2, playing Diablo 4 on softcore may be what's dulling the experience for you. Hardcore characters add a layer of tension and excitement—every battle feels meaningful because one mistake could end your run. You might find the game much more engaging if you add that high-stakes element back in.

2. Experiment with Different Builds
It sounds like you're aware of some new skills, like Dance of Knives for Rogue, but you might not have found the right build that clicks. Try diving deep into some community guides or theorycrafting to create a build that excites you. Experimenting with builds, especially with synergies and items, can add a lot of fun.

Focus on niche builds (e.g., pet builds, off-meta builds).
Set a unique goal for yourself (like soloing specific bosses or events with unconventional builds).
3. Join or Create a Group
You mentioned enjoying the new party finder, but perhaps you haven’t fully explored the social aspect of the game. Try finding a dedicated group of players to run content with regularly. Whether it's pushing Nightmare Dungeons or Helltides, grouping up could make it more engaging and social, especially if you team up with people who also enjoy theorycrafting or trying hardcore mode.

4. Set Personal Challenges or Goals
In Diablo 4, if the grind feels uninspired, try creating personal goals that aren't just about leveling up or farming loot. For example:

Speedrunning certain dungeons or events.
Completing all side-quests or 100% map exploration.
Focusing on PvP areas (Fields of Hatred), which can give you that hardcore-style thrill.
Solo or small-party challenges (e.g., no gear upgrades for a run).
5. Time-Gated Events (e.g., World Bosses, Helltides)
You mentioned getting bored of Helltides after 30 minutes, but have you explored how these time-gated events fit into the larger game? Sometimes rotating between Helltides, Whispers of the Dead, and World Bosses can add some structure to your gameplay, keeping things varied across your session.

6. Try Seasonal Content
When a new season rolls out, the game tends to feel fresh with new mechanics and goals. Starting a new seasonal character, especially in hardcore mode, could give you that sense of progression you miss from your Diablo 2 days.

7. Take Breaks and Alternate Games
It’s okay to feel like the game isn’t constantly engaging. Since you enjoy Diablo 2, you could switch back and forth between Diablo 2 and Diablo 4 to prevent burnout. Play Diablo 2 when you want that fast-paced chaos run, and hop into Diablo 4 when you’re in the mood for something slower and more methodical.

8. Explore the Story and Lore
If you haven’t fully immersed yourself in the lore and world-building of Diablo 4, this could be another way to get more enjoyment out of the game. Take the time to read the lore books, explore the world, and understand the story. This slower-paced exploration can make the game feel more rewarding.

9. Try Other Activities Besides Combat
Sometimes the constant grind can wear you out. Mix up your gameplay with things like:

Crafting and Trading: Become the go-to person for rare items.
Achievement Hunting: There are plenty of achievements in the game that offer unique challenges.
10. Maybe Step Back and Reset Expectations
Finally, you may just need to adjust your expectations. If you’re holding Diablo 4 to the standard of Diablo 2 or expecting it to fulfill that same niche, it might always fall short. Give yourself permission to see it as a different experience—something you can enjoy for short bursts, rather than marathon play sessions.
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Sep 6 2024 10:16am
Quote (winroar @ Sep 6 2024 06:06pm)
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You should start a counseiling practice for people in their 40s showing them again the way of how they can enjoy games. :))))

It looks even a bit like an AI might have written the text? If not respect for the effort.
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Sep 6 2024 10:29am
Quote (Apovax @ Sep 6 2024 06:16pm)
You should start a counseiling practice for people in their 40s showing them again the way of how they can enjoy games. :))))

It looks even a bit like an AI might have written the text? If not respect for the effort.


Haha, I appreciate the compliment (and the humor)! I definitely tried to pack in as many ideas as possible to help find that spark again in the game, so I’m glad it came across like a detailed strategy session. Whether it sounds AI-like or not, the goal was to give you some genuinely helpful suggestions, but now I’m wondering if I should consider that counseling practice... sounds like a fun side hustle! :))

Glad you took it in good spirits!
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