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Aug 28 2024 01:07pm
Followed a guide, and I guess I'm missing something. I know not all gear is apex, but I can't even half life a torm boss (Zir in this case)...

https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/da1pu0qs



And some of the builder stats are way off. Like crit. not sure why.

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Aug 28 2024 02:06pm
Quote (Legit_File @ Aug 28 2024 01:07pm)
Followed a guide, and I guess I'm missing something. I know not all gear is apex, but I can't even half life a torm boss (Zir in this case)...

https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/da1pu0qs

https://i.imgur.com/P8BCEvS.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/TzmScyy.png

And some of the builder stats are way off. Like crit. not sure why.

https://i.imgur.com/xPiS7Mw.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/9ccz0fg.png


What do you mean by Half Life?

FYI, ALL of the barb builds from last season {flay, bash, leapww, wwdd} are all nerfed this season. I'm not certain what you're expecting.
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Aug 28 2024 02:46pm
Nah. That build on maxroll just sucks. Yes all barb builds were nerfed this season. But no way they struggle on bosses with flay. Selig is useless if you’re looking for damage, run a normal ammy with cut the bones is better. GF does not provide x2 crit damage in stat sheet so that doesn’t work with gushing wounds either. Better drop and run polearm so you can make use of executioner in paragon.
Look at the build on mobalytics for flay. Flaying is not best but in no world they struggle on tormented bosses
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Aug 28 2024 03:32pm
Quote (junkie1991 @ Aug 28 2024 02:46pm)
Nah. That build on maxroll just sucks. Yes all barb builds were nerfed this season. But no way they struggle on bosses with flay. Selig is useless if you’re looking for damage, run a normal ammy with cut the bones is better. GF does not provide x2 crit damage in stat sheet so that doesn’t work with gushing wounds either. Better drop and run polearm so you can make use of executioner in paragon.
Look at the build on mobalytics for flay. Flaying is not best but in no world they struggle on tormented bosses


I too prefer Mobalytics as well as D4builds. I don't use Maxroll nor Icy Veins for anything.
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Aug 28 2024 06:17pm
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I too prefer Mobalytics as well as D4builds. I don't use Maxroll nor Icy Veins for anything.


Guides are just a good start for you to have an idea about the class. Once you have enough knowledge about the class. You’ll know what to do tbh. In this case i don’t see any reason for the selig.
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Aug 28 2024 06:18pm
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Guides are just a good start for you to have an idea about the class. Once you have enough knowledge about the class. You’ll know what to do tbh. In this case i don’t see any reason for the selig.


Maxroll and icy veins just lack a lot. Most of the users don't put a ton of thought into explaining the build and what actually does damage.
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Maxroll and icy veins just lack a lot. Most of the users don't put a ton of thought into explaining the build and what actually does damage.


Yeah. At least this guy’s asking for solution instead of straight up complaining barb as a class is unplayable. I did 140 pit with flay and no where near its max potential yet since i have a a few 1 GAs and don’t have masterworking x3 at ideal stats.
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Aug 28 2024 06:34pm
Quote (junkie1991 @ 28 Aug 2024 20:32)
Yeah. At least this guy’s asking for solution instead of straight up complaining barb as a class is unplayable. I did 140 pit with flay and no where near its max potential yet since i have a a few 1 GAs and don’t have masterworking x3 at ideal stats.


That's pretty much it. I'm not familiar with Barbs/Flay so I used a guide (clearly not the right one, it happens) and I'm just trying to learn.
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Aug 28 2024 07:11pm
Quote (Legit_File @ Aug 29 2024 10:34am)
That's pretty much it. I'm not familiar with Barbs/Flay so I used a guide (clearly not the right one, it happens) and I'm just trying to learn.


Respect to you dude. Feel free to pm me if you have further questions about flay.
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Aug 28 2024 07:16pm
Quote (junkie1991 @ 28 Aug 2024 21:11)
Respect to you dude. Feel free to pm me if you have further questions about flay.


I appreciate it. i rerolled to WW to farm for now. It seems like Flay needs specifics that are too expensive for me to buy rn.
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