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Jun 3 2024 02:32am
Sooo, I dont know what it is exactly, but I am certainly doing something wrong.

My Thorns Barb (Frenzy / EQ/ Leap) is not really killing Bosses from Pit Tier 67 onwards.

I fought the Sharpshooter and Bramble with 10 minutes left, but couldnt do it. At some point they just wore me out and I died cause those fight took forever and I dont know why.

I didnt make the build myself, I follow Rob's Boss Killer variant of the Thorns barb ( https://d4builds.gg/builds/0704c20f-68a7-49ed-97da-fc51454a9906/?var=2 ).

Problem is: I kill everything EXCEPT bosses. My gear of course isn't final or anything, I also have no Doombringer yet and my Razorplate is shit, but it honestly should be enough to beat those bosses imho.

Am I missing something? Is there any mechanic I am notusing or anything I could possibly do wrong?

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Jun 3 2024 03:25am
I kill everything EXCEPT bosses - nothing wrong, standard diablo 4 situation, blizzard just designed it that (dumb) way. You just need to increase your damage somehow.

Most likely they will add something like legendary gems or aoz glyph soon to handle this and nerf bosses hp.
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Jun 3 2024 03:37am
Quote (Madmaxio @ Jun 3 2024 11:25am)
I kill everything EXCEPT bosses - nothing wrong, standard diablo 4 situation, blizzard just designed it that (dumb) way. You just need to increase your damage somehow.

Most likely they will add something like legendary gems or aoz glyph soon to handle this and nerf bosses hp.


True, but crazy how guys like Rob, whos build I took, kill Lilith and Tormented Duriel in like 5 seconds with the same build (better gear if course).
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Jun 3 2024 07:12am
Quote (Madmaxio @ Jun 3 2024 12:25pm)
I kill everything EXCEPT bosses - nothing wrong, standard diablo 4 situation, blizzard just designed it that (dumb) way. You just need to increase your damage somehow.

Most likely they will add something like legendary gems or aoz glyph soon to handle this and nerf bosses hp.


I think next add will be similar Kanai's Cube as D3 got and down hill started. At these days you can complite GR 100 just entering to dungeon, same will be at D4 when you enter to Pit 150 and all will melt in 5-10 sec and boss dies in same second when it spawns :thumbsup:

Personally i enjoy D4 at now, it’s maybe a little bit too easy when we talk early game ( leveling ), but it’s okay at end game at least to me.

But when ever they add something like Cube or Set items i hope that they will scale game like it will be a bit harder even or make set items reasonable.
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Jun 3 2024 07:28am
Quote (MultipleUser1 @ Jun 3 2024 03:12pm)
I think next add will be similar Kanai's Cube as D3 got and down hill started. At these days you can complite GR 100 just entering to dungeon, same will be at D4 when you enter to Pit 150 and all will melt in 5-10 sec and boss dies in same second when it spawns :thumbsup:

Personally i enjoy D4 at now, it’s maybe a little bit too easy when we talk early game ( leveling ), but it’s okay at end game at least to me.

But when ever they add something like Cube or Set items i hope that they will scale game like it will be a bit harder even or make set items reasonable.


I absolutely agree. I am not a fan of 10 minute Sponge vosses, but I definitely dont want the game to end like D3. Challenge is good, but not in a Bullet Sponge way.
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Jun 3 2024 11:44am
why do people use frenzy with thorns? is it just for the dmg reduction? i cant see why they don't switch to bash for the crazy broken cleave dmg and stack thorns on top of that
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Jun 3 2024 12:01pm
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why do people use frenzy with thorns? is it just for the dmg reduction? i cant see why they don't switch to bash for the crazy broken cleave dmg and stack thorns on top of that


It’s for damage reduction. I think you can’t have both, eathquake duration and bash cleave, on weapon :p but sounds funny too ^
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Jun 3 2024 03:26pm
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True, but crazy how guys like Rob, whos build I took, kill Lilith and Tormented Duriel in like 5 seconds with the same build (better gear if course).


Better gear? You probably know that grandfather for example have multiplicative crit modifier. So this math model means linear progression only, no matter what build you use, gear is only thing that matters.
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Jun 3 2024 04:51pm
There are certain pit bosses that are bad for thorns barb. Bramble being one of them. I forget the other, but the other bosses should be okay.

I was able to do a 100 with my thorns barb , granted had decent gear 2ga razor; couple of 2 GA pieces (I think 2) and rest 1 GA pieces

This post was edited by jerryscherry on Jun 3 2024 04:51pm
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