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Nov 13 2023 02:54am
Who's build variant should i be going for if i want to speed run 90+ NMD's?

Is using oculus worth it for this and how do i cancel out the random location teleport effect?

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Who's build variant should i be going for if i want to speed run 90+ NMD's?

Is using oculus worth it for this and how do i cancel out the random location teleport effect?


u do that with the vampiric power metamorphosis

also u can swap out Raiment of the Infinite for a defensive armor if needed

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Chadly on youtube has a decent build that i tried out. was easily doing nmd100 with it, without the ideal rolls he recommended on gear. i prefer Arc Lash so ive since switched back.. it'll be my go-to if ever wanna go full BL again



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Chadly on youtube has a decent build that i tried out. was easily doing nmd100 with it, without the ideal rolls he recommended on gear. i prefer Arc Lash so ive since switched back.. it'll be my go-to if ever wanna go full BL again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18RnrDJxtOk


I guess it's one way to scale it...
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It has some interesting ideas and it helped me to improve my build (like I didn't know that you can get extra stack of tal rasha's aspect from poison (infection vampiric power) also wasn't using frigid fate which is now working as an extra glyph.

However enchantments he uses are rather questionable. Ball lightning enchantment is not that good because it only works on lucky hit which you don't do much because ball lightning has very low lucky hit chance. And I don't think that you really need to scale through conjurations like lightning spear. If I would use lightning spear enchantment, I would rather pair it with chain lightning enchantment which spawns so much more crackling energies. And it only good on bosses, because it makes you stay in one spot to pick all those crackling energies, otherwise you just running with a few stacks of conjurations.

So I think it's still better to use chain lightning enchantment with static surge as it's much more reliable source of vulnerability (accursed touch is also relied on lucky hit which doesn't happen often) you will have so much more mana even without chain lightning aspect (so much more crackling energy + 10% static surge refresh).

Also I guess 7th glyph is not necessary as you will also have to skip so many good rare nodes and extra stats for your glyphs just to barely get it.

So I run a slightly different build with different enchantments and a few different aspects and tweaks in paragon and skill try and it seems better all rounder (critting with high numbers more constantly and reliant on cooldowns). Maybe just ~20-30% slower on bosses because it's hard to compete with max conjuration stacks, but still able to do uber lilith or duriel in 1 phase so who cares about that, overall in tier100 nms or everywhere else I think my build is still way better.

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It has some interesting ideas and it helped me to improve my build (like I didn't know that you can get extra stack of tal rasha's aspect from poison (infection vampiric power) also wasn't using frigid fate which is now working as an extra glyph.

However enchantments he uses are rather questionable. Ball lightning enchantment is not that good because it only works on lucky hit which you don't do much because ball lightning has very low lucky hit chance. And I don't think that you really need to scale through conjurations like lightning spear. If I would use lightning spear enchantment, I would rather pair it with chain lightning enchantment which spawns so much more crackling energies. And it only good on bosses, because it makes you stay in one spot to pick all those crackling energies, otherwise you just running with a few stacks of conjurations.

So I think it's still better to use chain lightning enchantment with static surge as it's much more reliable source of vulnerability (accursed touch is also relied on lucky hit which doesn't happen often) you will have so much more mana even without chain lightning aspect (so much more crackling energy + 10% static surge refresh).

Also I guess 7th glyph is not necessary as you will also have to skip so many good rare nodes and extra stats for your glyphs just to barely get it.

So I run a slightly different build with different enchantments and a few different aspects and tweaks in paragon and skill try and it seems better all rounder (critting with high numbers more constantly and reliant on cooldowns). Maybe just ~20-30% slower on bosses because it's hard to compete with max conjuration stacks, but still able to do uber lilith or duriel in 1 phase so who cares about that, overall in tier100 nms or everywhere else I think my build is still way better.


i think the conjuration stuff will be much better for the upcoming "greater" rifts.
trying out his build to but without the defensive armor atm. still easy clearing nm100s with ‍Raiment of the Infinite on (but i have shako lol)
i think chain lightning is also just rng mostly because it gets launched in the direction u look and if u dont hit anything its just wasted... lightning spear is up for 6sec stuns mobs and gives u 3%X damage +. i think thats hard to beat
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i think the conjuration stuff will be much better for the upcoming "greater" rifts.
trying out his build to but without the defensive armor atm. still easy clearing nm100s with ‍Raiment of the Infinite on (but i have shako lol)
i think chain lightning is also just rng mostly because it gets launched in the direction u look and if u dont hit anything its just wasted... lightning spear is up for 6sec stuns mobs and gives u 3%X damage +. i think thats hard to beat


Same running shako with raiment still get occasionally one shotted by skeleton corpse bow I guess will need some more armor and reduction for rifts.

I don't have problems with chain lightning not hitting, I always spawn balls pointing on monsters so every 3 balls it shoots chain lightning 100% making everything around vulnerable and it's ton of extra damage (30%x from the aspect and around 15%x from frigid fate legendary node and 10%x from exploit glyph and some extra vulnerable damage on paragon). So it's way more damage than conjuration stacks which you won't have many of while running. You're basically dependent on frost nova to make monsters vulnerable which has fixed area of effect and cd and accursed touch barely every activates. Also destructive chain lightning will make a ton of crackling energy which makes 15%x charged glyph always active and gives you tons of extra mana.

I don't know but chain lightning enchantment feels so much better for me.

Here is my tier 100 nm dungeon run:
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Same running shako with raiment still get occasionally one shotted by skeleton corpse bow I guess will need some more armor and reduction for rifts.

I don't have problems with chain lightning not hitting, I always spawn balls pointing on monsters so every 3 balls it shoots chain lightning 100% making everything around vulnerable and it's ton of extra damage (30%x from the aspect and around 15%x from frigid fate legendary node and 10%x from exploit glyph and some extra vulnerable damage on paragon). So it's way more damage than conjuration stacks which you won't have many of while running. You're basically dependent on frost nova to make monsters vulnerable which has fixed area of effect and cd and accursed touch barely every activates. Also destructive chain lightning will make a ton of crackling energy which makes 15%x charged glyph always active and gives you tons of extra mana.

I don't know but chain lightning enchantment feels so much better for me.

Here is my tier 100 nm dungeon run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5UnRtHEfQ


u know u miss the 4th stack from tal rasha ring? i guess u miss cold damage because frostnova/ice armor doesnt do cold damage and ur most likely using chain lightning and firebolt als enchanment slot
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Quote (Nymph666 @ Nov 15 2023 10:19am)
Same running shako with raiment still get occasionally one shotted by skeleton corpse bow I guess will need some more armor and reduction for rifts.

I don't have problems with chain lightning not hitting, I always spawn balls pointing on monsters so every 3 balls it shoots chain lightning 100% making everything around vulnerable and it's ton of extra damage (30%x from the aspect and around 15%x from frigid fate legendary node and 10%x from exploit glyph and some extra vulnerable damage on paragon). So it's way more damage than conjuration stacks which you won't have many of while running. You're basically dependent on frost nova to make monsters vulnerable which has fixed area of effect and cd and accursed touch barely every activates. Also destructive chain lightning will make a ton of crackling energy which makes 15%x charged glyph always active and gives you tons of extra mana.

I don't know but chain lightning enchantment feels so much better for me.

Here is my tier 100 nm dungeon run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5UnRtHEfQ


ty for posting ur vid, its cool man, havent really been contributing but been lurking and learning, ty guys for keeping the thread going, ive learned a lot about BL sorcs
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Quote (Enyoo @ 15 Nov 2023 16:48)
u know u miss the 4th stack from tal rasha ring? i guess u miss cold damage because frostnova/ice armor doesnt do cold damage and ur most likely using chain lightning and firebolt als enchanment slot


Yeah, I know. I think it's silly that frost nova and ice armor don't deal any cold damage whatsoever, at least could have some sort option in one of the upgrades.

Anyway, it is what it is and I can't be bothered to have ice blades as my hotkey instead of frost nova. I like having all defensive skills as they all give you barrier with protection passive and that makes sure I have 100% uptime of the barrier all the time which activates two of my aspects and one glyph. Also I don't have problems with damage as you see, so in case I would want to show off, I can switch to ice blades just for that extra stack, but as I said it's more of a pain in the ass for me, as then I will find myself checking if I have that stack or not all the time and in the end it probably paradoxically just makes my clear speed slower not faster.

And I was testing this conjuration stacking and I couldn't see any advantages of it. As also you can see in his video, he barely gets 1-2 stacks of conjurations and lightning spears are barely hitting anything. So only for bosses or elite packs when he activates fire shield and devouring blaze starts working he hit those large crits he boasts about, but after that again he barely crits at all. And as I said, I don't get ball lightning enchantment at all. It is close to useless. I guess his build is optimized around those 2 seconds when you are able to activate all your cooldowns and pick up bunch of crackling energies (mostly just uber bosses), but overall for nm dungeons and incoming greater rifts - I don't think so.
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