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Aug 10 2023 02:29am
What’s the best 2/4 sec?
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Aug 10 2023 03:17am
3?
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Aug 10 2023 05:28am
2, for rogue at least.
Never checked if it's different for other classes.
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Aug 10 2023 06:39am
Quote (teunverstraten @ 10 Aug 2023 13:28)
2, for rogue at least.
Never checked if it's different for other classes.


Why
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Quote (BlackClover @ Aug 10 2023 06:39am)
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Use 2s (shorter duration) for 95% of situations. All speed clear content should use 2. And most push content wants to use 2 also (regardless of class). Even in higher content a lower number is better. Compare a 2s to a 4s in hard content with lots of mobs. If you have a 2s the affected monster takes a smaller amplification damage. However he’ll theoretically experience 2 explosions from all other adjacent monsters during the same time duration and a 4 duration barber would give a single explosion from adjacent mobs.

2 explosions from adjacent monsters>1 explosion with higher self amplification.

Longer duration is only better against bosses (not the challenging part of high tier NMD’s) and isolated elites. Short duration is better everywhere else.

TLDR: If you have a choice you should generally choose the shorter barber.

This post was edited by TeenyUncle8 on Aug 10 2023 07:00am
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Use 2s (shorter duration) for 95% of situations. All speed clear content should use 2. And most push content wants to use 2 also (regardless of class). Even in higher content a lower number is better. Compare a 2s to a 4s in hard content with lots of mobs. If you have a 2s the affected monster takes a smaller amplification damage. However he’ll theoretically experience 2 explosions from all other adjacent monsters during the same time duration and a 4 duration barber would give a single explosion from adjacent mobs.

2 explosions from adjacent monsters>1 explosion with higher self amplification.

Longer duration is only better against bosses (not the challenging part of high tier NMD’s) and isolated elites. Short duration is better everywhere else.

TLDR: If you have a choice you should generally choose the shorter barber.


Goes off when either a) you have done more dmg then the enemy has hp, b ) when timer hits.

With this in mind longer duaration is better, and will have same effect on mobs if you kill them before timer goes off.

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Aug 10 2023 02:43pm
Uber lilith --> 4 sec
Rest --> 2 sec
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Quote (molson_drinker @ 10 Aug 2023 22:38)
Goes off when either a) you have done more dmg then the enemy has hp, b ) when timer hits.

With this in mind longer duaration is better, and will have same effect on mobs if you kill them before timer goes off.


if this is the case, its not working everytime as intended
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Aug 10 2023 04:48pm
Quote (molson_drinker @ Aug 10 2023 02:38pm)
Goes off when either a) you have done more dmg then the enemy has hp, b ) when timer hits.

With this in mind longer duaration is better, and will have same effect on mobs if you kill them before timer goes off.


Honestly you’ve made me reconsider. I was thinking if it explodes twice from all the mobs you get the lower amp’ed damage twice… which is true, but since the barber just absorbs all the damage anyways you may as well just get the higher amplification as all the damage is absorbed and explodes anyways.

F idk. It’s not as obvious as I thought. Maybe you’re right and 4s is generally just better.

TLDR: I am dumb. Someone smarter than me needs to figure this out definitively.

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Aug 10 2023 07:27pm
2.9seconds so Vulnerable from exploit is still on when barber procs on bosses.
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