Having a hard time Rogue vs Rogue in Asia

I can own most classes and randoms however I cant seem to take tough lvl 100 pvp rogues in Asia.
already went through millions of gold trying different variations and pvp guides but mostly these are from
western content creators (they seem to work in their servers where the population seems more casual, I see them mostly fighting lower levels), the meta in Asia is just more brutal all lvl 100 Bis Rogues or Undodgeable One Shot Hota Barbs, with a lot of secretive builds that you wont find posted in English forums.

I've tried diff variations from Close Quarters Combat/max Dodge to Momentum Heal stack, to Temerity Lucky Hit, from Condemnation, to diff wrathful hearts,
immune bubbles, with and without siphon strikes, changed my paragon a lot, tried softcaps and hardcaps on crits and armor, etc etc. I just get smashed in standing 1 v 1 vs 100rogues,
it's like they just magically deal more damage and are tankier even though I feel like I have BiS gear and aspects. Even tried using the DR scroll and had Bloodmark off to offset their Damage to Elites % but still lose on a standing matcup. It's almost like they have Uber Uniques on or something... others can 3 shot me even when I was specced at 20k life and 7200 armor, dodge on pants, and boots, and even the dodge aspect. It's getting frustrating trying to solve the puzzle.

Any build advice from PVP Pros?
Maybe a specific Stat List would be better so I know what exact numbers to hit. You can dm if you dont want to publicly expose your builds

This post was edited by onlinespider on Aug 5 2023 09:40pm

Can help and explain some new meta build

yeah sure feel free to dm or post

You play rogue Tb?

of course
standard poison imbue tb / shadow clone

Now pvp are more cringe bacaus the new heart barber is cancer
Barb nec sorc druid using that its only way for win VS rogue

After if u loose rogue vs rogue itss your build problem
My opinion its to play with temerity + momentum on amulet
After you need to focus your attack speed and check if u have more than 200% crit it's useless better focus other stats like physique cutthroat or poison

Wouldn't waste time and effort in pvp for another year. So many things not working for pvp

let me know

I’m out of the loop in s1, I think everyone just stacks poison now? And idk anything about hearts.

In s0 you wanted as much life and armor as possible 8500-9250 armor or you get squished. Stack [X] dmg, then core. Max crit dmg at150-200, vulnerable didn’t work for rvr, except vs barriers so a dead stat for you. If the enemy has any thorns it will consume your 10s dodge aspect a with your attacks, so it’s not great. Momentum was required after armor/Dr nerf just for the extra dr. I though damage to elite didn’t work, but never confirmed that.

Everything you know about damage doesn’t work correctly in pvp. Which is why everyone calls it spaghetti coding. Damage stats work differently on different classes so you’ll need to find someone that’s tested specifically rouge vs rogue and build off that. Good luck!

Some out of date info there mate heres a quick update

Armor phys cap 7200
Elemental 9200
Core damage as much as possible
Cutthroat damage as much as possible
Crit chance as much as possible
Crit damage 250 is best diminishing returns very hard after this
Imbue crit works somewhat
Damage to elite doesnt work
Vulnerable only works 20% unless on shield then full vuln works
Dex is crap
Close damage crap
Phys damage crap
% damage isnt great

This post was edited by jackherer on Aug 7 2023 03:58am